End of Forever Mafia [Town Wins]

[Haxes]

End of Forever
[Mafia]




[ x - Rules

1. You must be active to participate in this mafia. I define active as at least coming in once per day and saying something, I understand on some occasions you can't foresee you may be busy a day. You have a 48 hour period to post, if you do not post within this period you will get a single warning. After a warning has been given if you fail to post again within 48 hours, I will mod-kill / replace you. If you cannot play for whatever reason inform me and I will find a replacement.

2. Do not copy/paste anything I give you for any reason.

3. Do not discuss anything in game outside of the thread.

4. Please bold, your votes and your unvotes. Failure to due so may result in me not counting it.

5. The day will end when a majority is met [[ [Highest vote count - (Second highest vote count + Players left to vote)] ]]

6. If for any reason I mod-kill you or if I have to replace you myself due to inactivity, you will be put on my blacklist and never allowed to participate in any games I host again. >:[
(If you tell me you can't be active and request a sub you are obviously exempt from my blacklist.)

7. No editing your posts for any reason.

8. No role claiming, aside from generic role claims.
Ex.
(I'm a cop) is fine.
(I'm Player A) is not.

9. Do not use your abilities as a way to prove yourself, saying I can prove I'm a cop WATCH! That indirectly is a specific role claim which is not aloud.

10. If you have any disputes, questions, or concerns ask me about it. PM or AIM at ShaeHAXSN will do.


[ x - Game Mechanics


Ability types

Trigger
These abilities are the "standard" abilities. They cost a certain amount of mana which will be indicated in your champion profiles. At the start of the first day, every player is awarded 1 point of mana into their mana pool. At the dawn of each new day you gain one additional mana, and the amount of mana you can hold in your pool is infinte. Using abilities depletes said amount of mana from your mana pool. Will you wait to use a more powerful ability, or use a weaker one but at a more frequent rate? The choice is up to you.
Continuous
This ability is always active and costs no mana.
Automatic
This ability will automatically activate under certain conditions, once those conditions are met.

Phase activation
Abilities can be activated at anytime day or night, by PMing me. Please PM me and not just IM me your actions. This is so I can keep a proper record of who did what when.

Victory conditions
[x] The Guardian Force wins when the Sentinel Force is eliminated.
[x] The Sentinel Force wins when it outnumbers the Guardian Force.
[x] If a Neutral Party exists it's win condition is survival. The Neutral Player will not take away a victory, he/she/they will win along side the winning team if they survive until the end of the game.





[ x-EoF Combatants

01. Kurono Raiin - Warrior in the Mist [Night 5 Killing]
02. Flame Champion Gorg - The Gluttonous Giant [Day 2 Lynching]
03. Vincent
04. Whatah Nexhor - The Iron Shield [Night 3 Kill]
05. Guile
06. Bloodwize Lily - The Succubus [Day 4 Lynching]
07. Sharkshocker
08.Candlejack Fate - Gambler Extraordinaire [Day 4 Ability]
09. Vincent K Glacious - The Sentinel Demi-Angel [Day 3 Lynching]
10. BetterThanYou Mod-Killed
11. Timekeeper Shadow [Day 6 Lynching]
12. Tenken
13. Jedah
14. Yoy Chrono - Time Mage [Day 6 Night Kill]
15. EcoReck Nimi - The Shapeshifter [Day 1 Lynching]
16. ZeratoPrime
17. Zero Tiki - The Small Tinker [Night 4 Kill]
18. MysticalDL
19. Solf J. Kimblee
20. Eddie Fenix
19. KeSha
22. Hebi Thantos [Day 5 Lynching]

* Cannot use abilities
* Cannot vote
* Cannot vote or use abilities


Player changes
+ Toxic' was subbed out for Timekeeper
+ YamiJoey changed his name to Guile
+ Kurono changed his name to Y3Y(?), feel free to mock and harass him accordingly.
+ A bunch of people changed their name to SSBB characters, figure them out at your own discretion.
+ Kurono has changed his name back to Kurono.
+ Eddie Fenix has been swapped in for Kanzo93.

Missed out on the game? Want to be a sub? PM me.




CURRENT PHASE: Day Seven.
Latest Update. (http://www.yugiohforums.com/showpost.php?p=582184&postcount=1563)


End of Forever

[ x - Prologue


This Mafia takes place on another planet, at another time. In a world often read about, one filled with demons and witchcraft, gods and angels. A magical land, that while peaceful by nature it always hasn't been such. At the world's creation, a powerful entity known as “Nyx” rose up to the cast the land asunder. A valiant warrior known now as “Omni” rose to the call of battle to fight off this evil entity, and the battle went on for what seemed like an eternity. This is what would come to be known as the “First Great War”. When it seemed like there was no end in sight the valiant warrior; sacrificing himself, was able to cast “Nyx” off to another dimension, but in doing so he was locked there as well. In that dimension the two were locked in eternal combat never to return, it seemed the world they left behind would be at peace forever... and it was at peace, but nothing lasts forever.


This world while having conflicting sides has always remained in balance, there has been nothing to upset the scale since the dawn of the world, which was many many lifetimes ago. So long ago that it's become nothing but a myth to most. That is until now, in the dawn of the age when forever has ended, when what should have lasted forever ends... An evil group known only to all as Sentinels, have emerged, and with them they command an army. They dawn the flag of “Nyx”, and while each fighting for something different... power, greed, or just to watch the destruction of the world, with their combined powers stopping them seems almost impossible.


It seemed impossible for a warrior to stand against Nyx in the first place, but it was done. So even with this raising force people have hope, and with hope they gather strength. People who know in their hearts what's right and aren't afraid to stand against the odds, these creatures are known as the Guardians. Much like their counter-parts they each have unique gifts, and reasons for fighting. There is no single hero of this story, every creature plays a vital role in what will happen here.


tl;dr version
Sentinels = Mafia
Guardians = Townies
Omni = Good
Nyx = Bad

Chapter 1

Clang.


The sound of clashing weapons echoed throughout the entire world. Two sides each determined to fight for there causes have met, with no intent on backing down. When an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object what happens? Each side having armies consisting of well in the tens of thousands, blood will surely flow like a river. The peons are not the keys to this war though, no it was the people, the creatures who have strength beyond that of the average bear.


These Champions were most certainly the key to the war. Some big, some small, some fast, some smart, no two Champions were alike, but they were all vital to their respective forces... and they had finally arrived on the scene. A howl that shook the foundation of the planet itself was heard, this was the start. The beginning of the “Second Great War”, when the peace that was supposed to last forever... ended.

The battle was raging on, and each side was suffering extreme causalities. The minor peons were dropping like flies, while neither side made advance on the other. The Champions were being cautious, they had their gifts but for the most part saving them. Nobody wanted to be the one to make the first move, it was a stare down to end all stare downs.


A young woman ended that though, she closed her eyes and felt the forest around her. She was one with her surroundings, and the forest heeded her call. Off in the distance she granted someone the precious life force known as mana.

With all the chaos of the battle still going on one solider dashes through at breakneck speed, any on lookers watching him run would surely be given wipe lash. He has a mission, he's the fastest there is and nobody can recover information like he can.

Darting through the madness, he reaches his target and learns all there is to know about the person.

As the battle raged on one Champion would not live to see the end of the day. Granting her powers to the Guardian team, she never used her unique gift, and she'd never get a chance too. She was send on a special mission...

As she infiltrated a Sentinel stronghold, she began eliminating them, killing a man and stealing his face. She split the blood of many but got sloppy got careless and just made some stupid mistakes. That's when she met him, an angel of darkness who made her blood run cold.

"I know you're not really on our side."

The last words she'd ever hear. Right before a blade was driven through her heart.



A cloaked man scanned the battlefield, just as chaotic as the last time he remembered it. War would never change, people would never change. No.. He didn't really believe that... he believed in people deep down, even if he'd never admit it.

As he fought, fear struck him though... the feeling of being watched. He couldn't shake it, no matter where he looked though it was only him, and the bodies of his enemies.

The cloaked man couldn't shake this horrible feeling... The feeling he was being watched, the feeling he was going to die. Was he afraid? He'd lived so long, he began to question if he could die. He wasn't afraid for himself though, he realized staying where he was he was putting the stronghold at risk. He was putting the boy's life at risk... so he took off for a remote location.

Darkness had fallen by the time he got there. When he reached the cave he shouted out, shouted out to whoever was stalking him.

“I know you're there! COME OUT. FACE ME.” The cloaked man screamed, clearly losing his cool.

“I'm already here...and your time is up.” A sword shot out of the darkness.
CRACK.
The sword met with a shield, and not just any shield, the impenetrable shield that belonged to the man with a stronger defense then anyone else in the world. Appearing from almost thin air, the old man had most certainly saved the life of his old comrade.

“Luckily for you, I thought they might target you first.” the old man gave a wink, to his clearly shocked friend. I did owe you one after all.

Impossible... The shadowy figure pulled back, he hadn't accounted for this. He had to retreat for now.

“You may have been saved tonight.” his voiced crackled. “...but I'm sure I'll be seeing you around, this is only the beginning after all.” He faded into what appeared to be thin air....and as he did the sun rose, it was a new day.

Chapter 2


A silent warrior scans the bodies of the sentinel scum he had just destoryed, he notices more nearby and decides it's time...

A fog begins to flow over him. It wasn't a nature fog though, something was different about the mysterious cloud. Upon entering it the presence of a person totally disappeared from the outside, like they were entering a new dimension. A dimension in which they were completely blind.

Quickly, quickly, quickly... The speedster was at it again. He darted through the dangerous battlefield without even a second thought, whizzing past spells and arrows. He once again had a target, and he'd once again obtain information on it.

Sometimes sound can be a dangerous thing. We often forget about that fact. As the battle rages on a howl fills the air and brings most people to their knees, it stretches far and way reaching nearly all the Champions. One person is effected far more then others though, and loses his ability to concentrate on using his abilities completely.

The man in the fog, felt it. He felt the presence of another in his fog. This mysterious creature was staring right at him, he... he could see? Impossible! Their isn't a creature in the world that can see in his fog.

Upon noticing the creature it faded away, he felt it behind him! He could sense everything in his fog, and the creature literally vanished and reappeared. So he did the same gaining the upper hand on his foe, and then his foe did the same! Then a long battle of sneaking around occurred, and nobody got anywhere.

The cloaked man's near death experience had shaken him up a bit, and he was trying to recover some strength in peace. He relaxed in a marsh just outside of the stronghold, he enjoyed the time alone before he jumped back into the battle.

But he wasn't alone. A mysterious beautiful woman approached him.

"I... I need your help. Your mana... give it to me. My friend needs it."

He needed his own mana, he wouldn't just give it up no matter how beautiful she was... that's when she kissed him. As she did he felt his energy be sucked away, she was taking his mana regardless of if he approved. When her lips touched his he felt a darkness, the same darkness he felt the shadowy figure possessed. Snapping back into reality he realized she was long gone.

You dare disrupt my forest? A massive giant is shocked by the effect the latest ability had on his wooden forest creatures.

Heed my call nature! He began to hum a soft tune, and all his friends seemed to relax. By the blessing of nature, all those effected by the previous update are no longer effected.

A young woman closes her eyes... she feels around her, she senses the warriors, the champions, their passions, and the strength of the resolve they have. She sees deep within the hearts of everyone, nobody can hide from her.

She takes time to focus, focuses on one creature... she sees into the depth of this creature's soul reading it's desires, it's fears, what makes it tick.

"...very interesting"

As the day came to a close, one creature would not live to see the night. Eating, eating, eating... he ate all in his path. That was until he met his match, it was a day like any other...

"Fooood.... you look tasty wingy man!" the giant beast gazed up at the sky. "Me eat you now. :3"

He lounged upwards attempting to suck the man into his belly, but failed. The man... why couldn't he suck him in? Never had someone been able to evade his eternal appetite. Puzzled he looked up, staring he realized the man looked like someone he knew.

"Who are you wingy man? Why you look like..." the man swooped down and decapitated the beast with a single slash of his sword. Gorg has had his final meal.

"...rest now."



Eliminated Player Profiles


EcoReck [Nimi - The Shapeshifter] [Guardian]
Nimi – The Shapeshifter [Guardian]
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/content/champion/312e302e302e37302d3238.jpg



It's said everyone in the world has a twin. That's a lie, the truth is.. Nimi exists. Ever since she was young she has been able to take identities, take faces, take powers. Finding her own life dull she lives hers through others. While she is a trickster, she is anything but evil... so when the Sentinels arrived and began taking over, she offered her aid to the Guardians, he special skill set will certainly come in handy.


Transform!
[1] Mana
I am you, you are me.
Choose target player; for the remainder of the game you gain all of their abilities, and player profile. If you are scanned it will be revealed you are whoever you have transformed into. Your team alliance cannot switch.


Flame Champion [Gorg - The Gluttonous Giant] [Sentinel]
Gorg – The Gluttonous Giant [Sentinel]
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/content/champion/312e302e302e37302d3336.jpg


“Fooooooood.” One thought fills Gorg's hollow mind. For as long as he can remember he's eaten, and yet he's never felt filled up. He defines the term obese. He will eat literally go on eating until he bursts, he doesn't care what he eats he just likes eating. It's obvious why he sided with the Sentinels. They offered him many more tasty snacks.


Consume
|4| Mana
Gorg, Hungry... GORG WANT EAT.
Choose target player; as long as you're alive they may not activate any abilities or vote.


Digest
|4| Mana
BURP!
Special Requirement: Only usable on someone under the effects of “Consume”.
Kill target player.

Vincent K [Glacious - Sentinel Demi-Angel] [Sentinel]
Glacious – Sentinel Demi-Angel [Sentinel]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/Shadownovan/Untitled-1-1.jpg


Upon the creation of the Sentinel group, Nyx channeled some of her energy to the world of the living and created an angel... an angel that would help her son fulfill his destiny. This angel was Glacious and he rose from the depths of despair to aid the Sentinels in their conquest of the world. Never had he felt such an evil presence, it rattled his bones and made him feel alive. He wanted nothing more than to bide his time to gain power and pass judgment on those who protect the land.


Nyx's Cold Embrace
[2] Mana
Frozen in time, frozen for a moment..
Choose target player, for the next two days they cannot activate any abilities.


Judgment
[8] Mana
The goodness in your heart, it disgusts me. Now stand before my Queen and be judged. Nyx will not have Mercy on your soul.
Upon activation the next [Guardian] to post in the thread will be killed.



Whatah [Nexhor - The Iron Shield] [Guardian]

Nexhor – The Iron Shield [Guardian]


http://www.leagueoflegends.com/content/champion/312e302e302e37302d3236.jpg



It's easy to run in guns blazing, to take up a sword and start swinging. What's difficult is learning to defend against you opponent... at least it is for most people. Nexhor isn't most people. Ever since he was a child, he could see through the tactics of others. He could perfectly read the movements and defend properly against anything that threatened him. That stands true today, he is without a doubt the defensive master of the Guardian team. His shield and his will cannot be broken.



Impenetrable Shield
|1| Mana
I will guard you with my life and shield, during this night you shall not fall in battle.
Choose target player; they cannot be killed during the night. You may not activate this ability on the same player twice in a row.

Unbreakable Defense
|1| Mana
Spell, Weapon, Secret Ability.. Friend, Foe.. I will stop them all.
Choose target player; any abilities that would affect them over the course of the next two days are negated.

Candlejack [Fate - Gambler Extradordinaire] [Guardian]
Fate – Gambler Extraordinaire [Guardian]
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/content/champion/312e302e302e37302d34.jpg

Life's a gamble. If you aren't risking something you aren't really living. All words Fate lives by. He has been betting since the day he was born, you'd expect him to always have the odds in his favor.. but that isn't the case. He lives for the rush of not knowing the outcome, to leaving everything to chance. For now the card's have served him well, but playing Russian Roulette is a danger game. How long can he go on? Only time will tell.


Show of the Hand
...And with that, I'll lay it all on the line.
[1] Mana
Choose target player.
Your profile is revealed to them.


Russian Roulette
...take a gun, take a chance.
[4] Mana
Special Restriction: Can only be used twice per game.
Choose target player.
If they are a [Guardian] you are killed.
If they are a [Sentinel] they are killed.


Bloodwize [Lily - The Succubus] [Sentinel]


Lily – The Succubus [Sentinel]
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/content/champion/312e302e302e37302d3235.jpg

Weak is the man who gives into the call of the flesh. Lily prays upon such weakness. As evil as she is beautiful, she wasn't always this way. She once had a love, but he betrayed her shattering her heart. When people looked at her, they never saw anything aside from the outer beauty, so she was plagued never to find true happiness. In her tears and sorrow she fell victim to a demonic force, a demonic force she now wields to torture the very men who made her feel such sadness.


Sap
[3] Mana
I'll just take a little energy from you. ;D
Special Requirement: Must be Male.
Choose target player, their Mana pool is reduced to zero.


Siphon
[2] Mana
My friend needs some energy, you'll help us won't you? :]
Special Requirement: Must be Male.
Choose target player [A]
Choose target player [B]
Player [A] loses [1] Mana
Player [B] gains [1] Mana




BetterThanYou [Khyrs - Brave Brother] [Guardian]

Khyrs – Brave Brother [Guardian]
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/content/champion/312e302e302e37302d3434.jpg


Due to his Sister's Unique gift she was drafted into the Guardian force to help the good of the people, and while they swore to protect her Khrys wasn't convinced. So in order to keep an eye on her he enlisted himself. Orphaned upon her birth, he had always been a father figure as well as a brother to Kelista.


Brotherly Love
[Continuous]
I've got your back. I've always had your back.
Any skill that would stun or eliminate Kelista will be redirected at you.


Sibling Communication
[Continuous]
Siblings Share!
You may talk to "Kelista" outside of the thread any way you see fit. KeSha is Kelista



Zero [Tiki - The Small Tinker [Guardian]

Tiki – The Small Tinker [Guardian]

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/content/champion/312e302e302e37302d3137.jpg


Tiki is and always has been one up for an adventure. Nothing enthralls him more than discovering new things, or making new friends. He has a fascination with how the world works, and is always working with little gizmos. He tinkers his days away, trying to enhance his robotic buddies. He has perfected a way to build small guardians that will protect his friends when he isn't around. In his case size certainly isn't everything.


Little Robo
[2] Mana
...put a screw here, and done. Now you have your own Mini-Guardian!
Choose target player; if a mafia player targets them with an ability that mafia player will lose their abilities for as long as you remain in the game. You may not target yourself with this ability.


Scamper
[1] Mana
...when hiding being small really comes in handy.
The following day upon activation of this ability any mafia abilities that target you will be negated.

[MysticalDL]

checking in

[Toxic`]

Confirming.

[YamiJoey]

/Complete.

YJ

[Red]

Present.

[Riddle]

Checking In.

[Eco]

In. >>

[BetterThanYou]

*yawn*

here.

[Zerker]

Confirming

@mod can players hint a activation of abilities?
Is claiming allowed?

[Kurono.]

Checking in :3

[BetterThanYou]

why wouldn't claiming and hinting be allowed? O.o

[Flame Champion]

why wouldn't claiming and hinting be allowed? O.o
because many games here forbid role claiming and ability hinting?

[sharkshocker]

Checking in.

[ZeratoPrime]

Checking in.

[Hebi]

Checking in.

^

[Zerker]

why wouldn't claiming and hinting be allowed? O.o
Also, no editing posts ;x

[Whatah]

Confirming

@mod can players hint a activation of abilities?
Is claiming allowed?

checking in

also that question is somewhat moot until we see how the gamehost is going to announce ability activations via story updates.

player#1 going "ok guys im a cop and im about to scan, next update will confirm me!" does nothing if the story update is literally "someone performs an action"

so far game looks good, looking forward to this a lot haxes

[Zerker]

checking in

also that question is somewhat moot until we see how the gamehost is going to announce ability activations via story updates.

player#1 going "ok guys im a cop and im about to scan, next update will confirm me!" does nothing if the story update is literally "someone performs an action"

so far game looks good, looking forward to this a lot haxes

if no one counter claims the update will confirm the player as long as it mentions a scan.
And then again, we are assuming that there will be daily updates.

[Zero]

checking in

epic game will be epic

[BetterThanYou]

because many games here forbid role claiming and ability hinting?


O.o I wonder how that works out.

[Whatah]

O.o I wonder how that works out.

sometimes it works well, sometimes not so well.

one of the main rules in designing a game is to not make a game that can be ruined by mass-claim.

there are many ways to get around this, such as not annoncing character names or by not describing what abilities are doing.

one of the biggest general cop-outs it when posts say "no claiming specific abilities, no claiming specific roles"

as in, i can say "ima cop"

but i cannot say "im goku and im going use my kammemaemmaea attack on Card"
then gameupdate describes goku using kmamemaeemae attack on radditz. at that point my role is confirmed and my attack also public cop'd another player.

the obvious fact is, the more in depth and specific game updates are the easier it is to use game updates to mass claim and thus turn every targeted ability into a free cop ability. again there are many ways to address this. one of the most popular on this site is "you can glam general classifications (cop, doc) but not specific roles" combined with a general "dont try to game the system by using declared actions + game updates to confirm yourself. this is considered gaming the system and the host can choose to let that backfire on you"



so tl;dr version, we have to wait and see how host handles game updates, and what limitations he is putting on us regarding role and ability claiming.

[BetterThanYou]

sometimes it works well, sometimes not so well.

one of the main rules in designing a game is to not make a game that can be ruined by mass-claim.

there are many ways to get around this, such as not annoncing character names or by not describing what abilities are doing.

one of the biggest general cop-outs it when posts say "no claiming specific abilities, no claiming specific roles"

as in, i can say "ima cop"

but i cannot say "im goku and im going use my kammemaemmaea attack on Card"
then gameupdate describes goku using kmamemaeemae attack on radditz. at that point my role is confirmed and my attack also public cop'd another player.

the obvious fact is, the more in depth and specific game updates are the easier it is to use game updates to mass claim and thus turn every targeted ability into a free cop ability. again there are many ways to address this. one of the most popular on this site is "you can glam general classifications (cop, doc) but not specific roles" combined with a general "dont try to game the system by using declared actions + game updates to confirm yourself. this is considered gaming the system and the host can choose to let that backfire on you"



so tl;dr version, we have to wait and see how host handles game updates, and what limitations he is putting on us regarding role and ability claiming.

kk

And now I'm bored.

[Zerker]

Waiting on the host for updates is kinda bad imo. FoS Whatah

Why? Because people would need to activate an ability and since we all only have 1 mana, abilities that require 1 mana are prob weak. Whatah is kinda indirectly forcing you to activate an ability so the host can make an update.

On the other hand, I do encourage those people that always die early to activate their abilities asap. I only advice this to a select few not all of you.

[BetterThanYou]

sure why not start now

Yoy, maybe b/c I haven't read his post thoroughly, but I don't see him indirectly trying to get us to activate our abilities.

[MysticalDL]

thats just Yoy trying to set up one of his many false traps.

[Haxes]

Confirming

@mod can players hint a activation of abilities?
Is claiming allowed?
Basically generic claiming is aloud (I'm a cop)

Anything beyond that though, no and the announcement of activation of abilities is definitely a no. In the past when people claim to be [x] then use an ability to prove it... it's giant mafia cheese, and I loathe that.

Also as you stated no editing posts, I'll go update the rules a bit.



Chapter 1

Clang.


The sound of clashing weapons echoed throughout the entire world. Two sides each determined to fight for there causes have met, with no intent on backing down. When an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object what happens? Each side having armies consisting of well in the tens of thousands, blood will surely flow like a river. The peons are not the keys to this war though, no it was the people, the creatures who have strength beyond that of the average bear.


These Champions were most certainly the key to the war. Some big, some small, some fast, some smart, no two Champions were alike, but they were all vital to their respective forces... and they had finally arrived on the scene. A howl that shook the foundation of the planet itself was heard, this was the start. The beginning of the “Second Great War”, when the peace that was supposed to last forever... ended.




Day 1 Start. Abilities can now be activated.

[Whatah]

no im not trying to force anyone to do anything, in fact i purposefully wanted to explain this part "while still in checkin phase" so as to avoid the appearance of trying to tell people what they should be doing (because we arent supposed to be doing anything right now)

i dont have to force anyone to do anything, in a big game it is obvious that some player is going to rather quickly activate some ability, all im saying is that it is pointless to hypothesize about blanket rules regarding role claiming until after we a) hear what the host has to say about it (and just as importantly, but was not mentioned before i pointed out) b) see how the host goes about announcing game updates.

some mafia games (like halo) were ruined more because of how game updates were handled than because of any other single factor.

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 02:09 PM ----------

^ that is irony

[Kanzo93]

Okedokie. FoS Yoy Whatah anddd Kesha. Go go gooo....

[Whatah]

hey guies

despite how games around here seem to run:

long posts do not require you to counter with a FOS

and

you dont have to start and or end every post with direct accusations of SCUM!!!!

believe it or not it is possible to play this game and not pretend you understand everything after just a couple people have made a few posts...

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 03:00 PM ----------

why FOS a random newbie who has not checked in? did you see KeSha come into the thread recently and not post?

[Red]

Didn't Pepsi get a name change from I'm a Terrorist to KeSha?

[Zerker]

Kanzo FoS'ing me and whatah is understandable, the question is why Kesha?

I believe Kanzo and Kesha have something going on.

On the other hand, whatah got REALLY defensive after I jokingly called him out. Scummy? yes.

[Vincent]

Checking in.

Hello.

[Whatah]

no its not scummy. it is my reaction to what i have seen in past games where everyone jumps to conclusions and then try to act like they are 110% sure about stuff when they are not, then the game turns into a hyper aggressive epeen contest for no reason. quite the opposite, i have nothing to hide for the firs time in several games so i can post as much as i want.

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 03:22 PM ----------

and yea kesha = pepsi whoops forgot

lets everyone refer to people as their current display names so that any newbies are able to keep track of what is going on

and mafia players who frequently change their names are people i haet.

[Zerker]

Nothing to hide, eh?
The funny thing is that no one said you had anything to hide. I simply stated that your response was somewhat scummy.

I am pretty sure everyone has something to hide. They can't simply come into the game and be like " i am x, who should I use my power on"
I am hiding something, the thing I am hiding is the great power I was given. It's so great that there may never be enough days to activate it. I named my power "Armageddon Knight".

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 05:40 PM ----------

When tenken is inactive he's usually mafia.

Vote Tenken

[Eco]

In the forums I usually played at, you were allowed to role-claim/ability claim, but it was forbidden to quote what the PM sent you, to take a pic, or to forge a pic/quote. Also, outside-thread discussion was allowed between members as long as they obey the rules stated in the sentence before.

Edit: Also, I vote Kurono just cuz http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/4/4d/Emot-awesome.gif

[Vincent]

No editing of posts pl0x. 'Tis against the rules.

[Whatah]

yea outside thread communication (other then for mafia members or masons) is almost never allowed in our games. mafia should be a strategy game where the gamethread becomes a puzzle to be solved based on who attacked who, who defended who, and what was revealed when people are killed. allowing unlimited outside of thread communication directly discourages poking and prodding in the gamethread which is the core element of a good mafia game.

[Zerker]

THE GAME HAS STARTED LETS LYNCH SOMEONE!

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 06:27 PM ----------

unvote
Vote Kurono

my friend ecoReck might be on to something

[YamiJoey]

Vote Yoy

His actions towards Whatah. Whatah could also be scum, this could be distancing, but Yoy is making scummy plays. Don't give me this traps crap, either.

YJ

[Zerker]

agreed.
unvote
Vote Yoy

[ZeratoPrime]

Yoy votes himself.

Vintage Yoy.

[MysticalDL]

there is a few people I have some small suspicions about, but not enough to raise a FOS or vote against them right now.

[Zerker]

cautiousness is a scumtell, MDL.

[Eco]

Hm. I think Voy might be the Jester (or whatever its called in this version) where if he gets killed off, he wins.

Wait, are we allowed to give open advice?

[Hebi]

Vote Haxes

There's such a thing as a Jester? o.o

I doubt Neutral would win by killing himself >.>

[Haxes]

Hm. I think Voy might be the Jester (or whatever its called in this version) where if he gets killed off, he wins.

Wait, are we allowed to give open advice?
Yeah? Give whatever advice you'd like. That's in part how the game moves.

[Eco]

Hebi, in General Mafia, its called the Jester. I don't know what its called in this version though or if Haxes even included it here.

[Zero]

to start off

FoS Yoy

he isnt really taking this seriously, which is different from his usual play-style

[Zerker]

I really want to win. ;x

[ZeratoPrime]

to start off

FoS Yoy

he isnt really taking this seriously, which is different from his usual play-style

Really, since when?

[Vincent]

Yoy is such a huge target . . . if he was Jester, this game would be over in within like 15-20 more pages.

[Zero]

Really, since when?

from what ive seen

he usually is too serious when he ISNT mafia

[Zerker]

Serious? how?

[Toxic`]

I guess I'm going to go ahead and Vote No Lynch. Day 1, nothing really to analyze or any slip ups from the scum.

[Zerker]

SCUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
unvote
vote Toxic'

[Toxic`]

Wrong symbol, scum. ` -/- '

[Zerker]

Nice distraction.
lol symbols as a defense ;x

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 09:59 PM ----------

I obv purposefully mis-typed your name.

[BetterThanYou]

omfg the rvs is even stupider here than what I'm used to <.<

Yoy is going crazy. FoS Yoy Does he usually act bipolar?

FoS Toxic for voting no lynch even though the game just started.



When tenken is inactive he's usually mafia.

Vote Tenken

the game just started

/really doesn't like Yoy's voting pattern

vote Yoy

gogogogogo yoy wagon

If there's a jester in this game, I'm never playing mafia here again. This one was reviewed, rite?

[MysticalDL]

cautiousness is a scumtell, MDL.

How is actting with caution a scumtell?

all i wish to do is gather more INFO, before i make FOS's and vote. Instead of actting like some random who shoots off FOS and votes with no evidence.

[Zerker]

omfg the rvs is even stupider here than what I'm used to <.<

Yoy is going crazy. FoS Yoy Does he usually act bipolar?

FoS Toxic for voting no lynch even though the game just started.



the game just started

/really doesn't like Yoy's voting pattern

vote Yoy

gogogogogo yoy wagon

If there's a jester in this game, I'm never playing mafia here again. This one was reviewed, rite?

making alternate accounts?

[BetterThanYou]

making alternate accounts?

wtf are you talking about?

[Toxic`]

Why is voting a No Lynch suspicious? I obviously have no one to suspect. Yoy is obviously trolling/fishing so it would be dumb as **** to vote him. As of right now, no one stands out to me as scum because the game has just started. I'm voting No Lynch to get my vote in now, if anything comes up as suspicious, I could always change it.

[Zerker]

How is actting with caution a scumtell?

all i wish to do is gather more INFO, before i make FOS's and vote. Instead of actting like some random who shoots off FOS and votes with no evidence.
so what do you plan on doing? sit around and gain no information? Hope someone uses some ability?

[BetterThanYou]

Why is voting a No Lynch suspicious? I obviously have no one to suspect. Yoy is obviously trolling/fishing so it would be dumb as **** to vote him. As of right now, no one stands out to me as scum because the game has just started. I'm voting No Lynch to get my vote in now, if anything comes up as suspicious, I could always change it.


voting no lynch means you want the day to end.

[MysticalDL]

so what do you plan on doing? sit around and gain no information? Hope someone uses some ability?

I am actually watching how people are posting and actting day 1, to see who is scum and who is actually town. Its better then recklessly tossing out tossing out FOS and votes for no reason, and making unneeded suspicion to fall upon myself.

[Toxic`]

Not exactly. I'm not used to how YF plays their mafia, but usually Day 1 ends in a No Lynch anyways.

[Zerker]

Why is voting a No Lynch suspicious? I obviously have no one to suspect. Yoy is obviously trolling/fishing so it would be dumb as **** to vote him. As of right now, no one stands out to me as scum because the game has just started. I'm voting No Lynch to get my vote in now, if anything comes up as suspicious, I could always change it.
Or tell me this.
Tell me 3 good reason why we should all vote no lynch right now.

[Toxic`]

There isn't any good reasons, it's the way I feel, not going to try to push a vote on you.

[ZeratoPrime]

Not exactly. I'm not used to how YF plays their mafia, but usually Day 1 ends in a No Lynch anyways.

Not here they don't.

[MysticalDL]

I favor voting for no lynch until i can pick up a scum trail day 1 and then bring FOS and vote on my suspect.

[BetterThanYou]

There isn't any good reasons, it's the way I feel, not going to try to push a vote on you.

It's always better to lynch someone Day 1; to get info about the game from their role and posts, etc.

Why would you vote for no good reason?

Tell me, if you don't want a no lynch and don't plan to push it, what's the difference between what you're doing and not voting?

[Zerker]

voting no lynch means there's zero chance we will mislynch

[Toxic`]

It's always better to lynch someone Day 1; to get info about the game from their role and posts, etc.

Why would you vote for no good reason?

Tell me, if you don't want a no lynch and don't plan to push it, what's the difference between what you're doing and not voting?

Because it's how I'm used to playing. You guys obviously play different.

[Flame Champion]

There isn't any good reasons, it's the way I feel, not going to try to push a vote on you.
yoy pushes everyone until we all just give in and vote for someone so that he'll shut up.

voting for vincent K. why? cause he's always mafia when I'm townie. I am townie. Ergo, he is mafia.

[Zero]

yoy pushes everyone until we all just give in and vote for someone so that he'll shut up.

voting for vincent K. why? cause he's always mafia when I'm townie. I am townie. Ergo, he is mafia.

we cannot assume that YOU are town though

[Zerker]

I can assume that FC is town. Otherwise he wouldn't have said that.

FoS Vincent K

[Flame Champion]

we cannot assume that YOU are town though
sure you can. i'm a trustworthy guy.

[Zero]

sure you can. i'm a trustworthy guy.


......right~

FoS FC

he seems to be trying too hard to make us believe he is town

[Zerker]

Zero is being hard headed because he thinks that's what a townie would do imo

[BetterThanYou]

I can assume that FC is town. Otherwise he wouldn't have said that.

FoS Vincent K


WIFOM


sure you can. i'm a trustworthy guy.


Yea, why else would he be a Prime Minister? unvote; vote Vincent K

[Zero]

Zero is being hard headed because he thinks that's what a townie would do imo

im only doing what you are doing

weeding out the scum

[Zerker]

im only doing what you are doing

weeding out the scum
that's assuming I'm not scum.

FoS Zero

[MysticalDL]

im only doing what you are doing

weeding out the scum

anybody can be considered scum day 1, so thats like trying to weed out the entire list of players.

[Zero]

"just testing the waters"

so to speak

getting people's reaction helps discern who is town and who is scum

[MysticalDL]

"just testing the waters"

so to speak

getting people's reaction helps discern who is town and who is scum

obviously scum would try to cover their trail with an excuse like that

FOS Zero

[Zerker]

The game I play this game is to assume that everyone is mafia. MDL is this how you play too? or are you the type of person that assumes that everyone is town until proven otherwise?

[Zero]

obviously scum would try to cover their trail with an excuse like that

FOS Zero

hmm

makes sense

if i WAS scum

i want to hear more from the other people before i post any more

[MysticalDL]

i assume everybody is town, until they do something to raise my suspicion of them.

[Eco]

You guys are either really bad actors or decent players.

My vote stays the same. :p

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 11:02 PM ----------

I also say Voy is the Jester in this game and FC is a possible mafia member.

[MysticalDL]

You guys are either really bad actors or decent players.

My vote stays the same. :p

nobody asked for the opinion of somebody from the peanut gallery so shut up

[Zerker]

You guys are either really bad actors or decent players.

My vote stays the same. :p

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 11:02 PM ----------

I also say Voy is the Jester in this game and FC is a possible mafia member.
who are you voting for again?

[Eco]

Kurono.

[Zerker]

Kurono.
You think kurono is mafia?

[Eco]

I'm taking a blind shot. Its what I do for all first rounds in every forum I go to.

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 11:11 PM ----------


nobody asked for the opinion of somebody from the peanut gallery so shut up

I find that amusing considering I'm part of the game.

[Zerker]

I'm taking a blind shot. Its what I do for all first rounds in every forum I go to.

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 11:11 PM ----------



I find that amusing considering I'm part of the game.

Don't you think that voting for FC is a better move?



You guys are either really bad actors or decent players.

My vote stays the same. :p

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 11:02 PM ----------

I also say Voy is the Jester in this game and FC is a possible mafia member.

[Kurono.]

I guess I'm going to go ahead and Vote No Lynch. Day 1, nothing really to analyze or any slip ups from the scum.

Bad move.


Why is voting a No Lynch suspicious? I obviously have no one to suspect. Yoy is obviously trolling/fishing so it would be dumb as **** to vote him. As of right now, no one stands out to me as scum because the game has just started. I'm voting No Lynch to get my vote in now, if anything comes up as suspicious, I could always change it.

I am going to sound scummy, and I am aware of that. But killing someone day one is vital to determining the outcome of the game. While there is a possibility that we kill an important role, we learn so much from that kill, that it can literally determine the rest of the game. Voting No Lynch on day one is, while standard in many mafia games, a very bad habit that many players have gotten into. Especially those from ETC.

Day 1 is the most important day in the game.


There isn't any good reasons, it's the way I feel, not going to try to push a vote on you.

If there are no good reasons to vote No-Lynch on Day 1, why did you do it?

[BetterThanYou]

There is no jester. There's almost never a jester. It's always bad to think there's a jester.

Tell me more about why you think FC is scummy.

unvote; vote yoy again

You're all scum except me and my 4 masons. That's what I assume when I play. <.<

There's a scum connection between yoy and...ah, I'll save that for later.

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 11:21 PM ----------


Don't you think that voting for FC is a better move?
OCD is an epidemic, it seems.

EcoReck, how expirienced are you at mafia?

Toxic, same Q.

[Zerker]

Let me say this, killing yoy day 1 is a bad move since he usually dies night 1 =/

[Pepsi]

checking in

i find it funny kanzo threw a random FoS at me b4 i even checked in

[BetterThanYou]

Let me say this, killing yoy day 1 is a bad move since he usually dies night 1 =/


oh. just read your sig.

I'll wait until I'm sure, then. unvote.

[MysticalDL]

oh. just read your sig.

I'll wait until I'm sure, then. unvote.

wait wait wait

So you are saying that you are unvoting somebody because they have "Mafia player of the year" in their sig?

Is that really your only reason for doing so?

FOS BetterThanYou

[BetterThanYou]

obviously our little mafia player of the year could become useful as the game progresses, if he is town.

If he isnt, we don't lynch him until we are more sure he is, or save him for tomorrow, after he tells us who all his scumbuds are.

doyouunderstandnao?

[ZeratoPrime]

wait wait wait

So you are saying that you are unvoting somebody because they have "Mafia player of the year" in their sig?

Is that really your only reason for doing so?

FOS BetterThanYou
^ This

That makes no sense at all to me...hmmm.

[Eco]

EcoReck, how expirienced are you at mafia?

I've played alot of games both on Forums and IRC. I'm just rather confused that you guys aren't allowing out-of-thread access since on the other forums, this created the most drama with alliances and whatnot, but who am I to complain?

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 12:25 AM ----------


oh. just read your sig.

So if I put "Obviously a Townie" in my sig, then I'm in the clear?

[Pepsi]

I've played alot of games both on Forums and IRC. I'm just rather confused that you guys aren't allowing out-of-thread access since on the other forums, this created the most drama with alliances and whatnot, but who am I to complain?

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 12:25 AM ----------



So if I put "Obviously a Townie" in my sig, then I'm in the clear?

this post made me lol hardcore

one only reason out of thread comunication isnt allowed is b/c it makes it to where people can cheat easily by revealing there aliance and whatnot to others

and for ur obv a town in sig idea

you could but who would belive you unless you back it up?

[MysticalDL]

obviously our little mafia player of the year could become useful as the game progresses, if he is town.

If he isnt, we don't lynch him until we are more sure he is, or save him for tomorrow, after he tells us who all his scumbuds are.

doyouunderstandnao?

ok yes he could be useful, but what you are failing to realize is that, he is also not stupid enough to make a slip up and amke himself become a target just to be useful to somebody who could very well be scum.

and how exctly are you gonna make him tell you who his scum buddies are if he is actually scum? if he is mafia scum then he would not be stupid enough to give out information as to who his other mafia coherts are, since that would be against the rules, and make him look like he is a very bad mafia player.

Do you understand now mafia scum?

Yes i can tell a mile away at how hard you are trying to act town and failing quite miserably if you ask me. Which leads me to think that we have found our first scum of the game.

Vote BetterThanYou

[Pepsi]

MDL plz go into detail for me why you think he is scum?

i agree the reasoning is bad

but this is his first mafia game right?

id give him the benifit of the doubt at this point

[Tenken]

Vote CandleJack

Reason: He is mafia, nuff said
Proof: None

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 01:49 AM ----------

Well no one talks, so I guess I'm off.

[Tenken]

Vote CandleJack

Reason: He is mafia, nuff said
Proof: None

[Pepsi]

Vote CandleJack

Reason: He is mafia, nuff said
Proof: None

...

so why on earth would you post that then?

[Eco]

Its the first god damned round. May I ask where could you possibly find proof? Just admit it. All of you are taking blind shots, like me.

[Pepsi]

Its the first god damned round. May I ask where could you possibly find proof? Just admit it. All of you are taking blind shots, like me.

exactly

thus why saying

"im a townie" is not good enough

[Flame Champion]

Let me say this, killing yoy day 1 is a bad move since he usually dies night 1 =/
thats my role. quit stealing it.

[MysticalDL]

MDL plz go into detail for me why you think he is scum?

i agree the reasoning is bad

but this is his first mafia game right?

id give him the benifit of the doubt at this point

Ok he thinks because somebody is MPotY, could actually be manipulated into divulging evidence that would incriminating himself and possibly fellow mafia if the guy was infact mafia. If you ask me. he is flat out instead admitting to himself being mafia, while trying to draw false accusations on somebody else entirely.

He is either playing the role of a very bad townie or very bad mafia, and i think it would be beneficial for the town to either way lynch him, so that we will not have somebody like him around to cause more potential drama and confusion and possibly cost us the game.

[Pepsi]

even if he is mafia which i doubt he is

wouldnt it be better to lynch a better player who could be mafia?

[Zero]

whats the limit on day 1?

or do we not have one?

[Tenken]

...

so why on earth would you post that then?
Because the town should know that he is mafia.

[MysticalDL]

not really cause if you take that risk, and that player is not mafia, then all it will do is cause unwanted backlash suspicion upon yourself and resulting in you getting lynched the following day.

its better to get rid of the potential trouble makers of the town fast, so that the town will not have to worry about mass confusion IMO

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 01:17 AM ----------

last post was aimed at KeSha

[Pepsi]

and if we do all pile onto him

you do relize you will look the worst?

[Tenken]

and if we do all pile onto him

you do relize you will look the worst?
At me or MDL? I assume MDL, because calling out a mafia member shouldn't make a player look bad.

[Pepsi]

At me or MDL? I assume MDL, because calling out a mafia member shouldn't make a player look bad.

im saying when he shows up as townie

MDL will look bad

[MysticalDL]

im saying when he shows up as townie

MDL will look bad

why would i look bad for helping us get rid of a bad townie, that has the potential to cause mass confusion and chaos among our ranks, and potentially cost us game to the mafia scum.

[Pepsi]

why would you want to kill a townie in the first place?

that in itself is scummy

vote MDL

[MysticalDL]

why would you wish to keep a potential trouble making townie is a better question

there has been alot of mafia games where we the town will lynch off the trouble makers to make certain that we have a stable town.

[Pepsi]

why would you wish to keep a potential trouble making townie is a better question

there has been alot of mafia games where we the town will lynch off the trouble makers to make certain that we have a stable town.

and doing that results us in a -1 and it is retarded that you would even bring up the idea of doing so.

[Eco]

DL broke logic.
unvote
Vote MysticalDL

[ZeratoPrime]

why would you wish to keep a potential trouble making townie is a better question

there has been alot of mafia games where we the town will lynch off the trouble makers to make certain that we have a stable town.

Bad Townie > Alive Mafia

No need to end Day 1 so early guys. Make it last so some of us can get an idea who to/not to trust.

[Tenken]

Would mafia be stupid enough to go against the grain and cause a comotion?

No, so how about we get on track.

[Eco]

Reason: Because you annoy me.

[Pepsi]

so no one else thinks wanting to kill a townie is reason enough to be lynched?

[Tenken]

It happens on other sites. It is imo bad logic, but the general idea is that bad townies won't help the town, because they won't add any useful information and only confuse the town.

Think Yoy when he goes off "setting traps." It does the town no good and only causes a lot of useless discussion.

[Pepsi]

true

but wanting to kill bad town just to get rid of them puts us at a disadvantage faster

[Flame Champion]

so no one else thinks wanting to kill a townie is reason enough to be lynched?
i used to vote against whatah just because he was an admin?

anyway, killing townies even if they're retarded should only be done as a last resort if ever.

[Pepsi]

well im out till tomorow night probably

gl with the hunt till then

[Haxes]

whats the limit on day 1?

or do we not have one?
No limit. Limits are for squares.

[sharkshocker]

Some thoughts:
- Mafia's probably not gonna group together on their votes today.
- More likely than not, a mislynch might occur.
- Mafia would probably throw the blame on whoever was part of the mislynch next day.
- Night kill is most likely going to be on someone who's been inactive so far.

[MysticalDL]

I myself have never seen eliminating potential trouble making townies that have a high risk of causing comotion and distrust and confusion as a negative for the town even if we do have to -1 ourselves. IMO it would be better to -1 ourselves now to get rid of that distraction, over letting him stay and risk him becoming a bigger and bigger distraction and confusion point for us.

[Kanzo93]

Some thoughts:
- Mafia's probably not gonna group together on their votes today.
- More likely than not, a mislynch might occur.
- Mafia would probably throw the blame on whoever was part of the mislynch next day.
- Night kill is most likely going to be on someone who's been inactive so far.

Dude TBH i really agree with this. lol thats all gonna happen its kinda funny lol

Fred i fosed just randoms. lol

[MysticalDL]

DL broke logic.
unvote
Vote MysticalDL


Explain how I broke logic?

it is very logical in mafia games for the town to get rid of problematic townies that could cause mislynchs and chaos.

[Haxes]

Vote Count

MysticalDL (2) - KeSha, EcoReck
No Lynch (1) - Toxic'
Yoy (1) - YamiJoey
Toxic' (1) - Yoy
Vincent K (1) - Prime Minister FC
Candlejack (1) - Tenken
BetterThanYou (1) - MysticalDL

Yet to vote
Kurono, Vincent, Whatah, Bloodwize, Sharkshocker, Candlejack, Vincent K ,BetterThanYou, Jedah, ZeratoPrime, Zero, Solf J. Kimblee, Kanzo93

[Riddle]

I reworded some posts to make them fit more.


Why is voting a No Lynch suspicious? I obviously have no one to suspect. Yoy is obviously trolling/fishing so it would be dumb as **** to vote him. As of right now, no one stands out to me as scum because the game has just started. I'm voting No Lynch to get my vote in now, if anything comes up as suspicious, I could always change it.

The game just started, so I don't have to do anything for a while. At least until a wagon comes across my path and I have to jump on it. I'm "voting", so it looks like I'm participating. If someone tells me to vote for someone else, I always can.


Not exactly. I'm not used to how YF plays their mafia, but usually Day 1 ends in a No Lynch anyways.

Usually, I just let the game flow around me, and rarely try to get in there and find scum. It's even harder when I am scum, so I'm voting no lynch right away.


There isn't any good reasons, it's the way I feel, not going to try to push a vote on you.

What? I didn't say I was doing anything, even though it might look like I'm doing something. I'm not "wink" trying to push a vote on you "wink."


Because it's how I'm used to playing. You guys obviously play different.

I've never played here, please take pity on me? Obviously me acting different is because I'm foreign, not because I'm scum. Because I'm not scum.


Its the first god damned round. May I ask where could you possibly find proof? Just admit it. All of you are taking blind shots, like me.

Nothing has happened. Noone knows anything, how can anyone be expected to have this "proof?" You're being scummy, admit it. All of you are trying to find scum, like me, because I'm not scum...

[Eco]

Explain how I broke logic?

it is very logical in mafia games for the town to get rid of problematic townies that could cause mislynchs and chaos.

No. No it isn't. Like at all.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 09:23 AM ----------


Nothing has happened. Noone knows anything, how can anyone be expected to have this "proof?" You're being scummy, admit it. All of you are trying to find scum, like me, because I'm not scum...

I'm proving my point that everyone is basing their votes of these baseless theories that "you're scummy" and such.

[Whatah]

we have had some great consistency lynching a scum day1 here

in general, townies are able to play recklessly, while mafia have to be very careful and calculate each action. every time they post they have a voice in the back of their head wondering if later in the game any particular post is going to tie them to one of their scum buddies or otherwise incriminate them.

normally we have 2 super spammers in most of our large games, jordan and yoy. jordan was blacklisted last game and it will be a while longer before he is allowed to play again. this is the first time i have seen yoy doing his thing "frequent vote hops trying to draw a bandwagon picture" without jordan throwing out a slightly different series of attacks.

in our last 5 large games:
bloodwise mafia, day1 votes were targeting reaperzero (mafia) before day ended via ability
halo mafia, day1 lynch nailed a mafia
digimon mafia, day1 lynch nailed a mafia
slox mafia, day1 lynch was a mafia
terminator mafia ended day1 with a no-lynch, but 2 mafia and 0 townies were killed day1 via abilities.

(this pattern might hold true for minimafias, but im not sure since several of those i dont read...)


compare this information against what sharkshocker posted:


Some thoughts:
- Mafia's probably not gonna group together on their votes today.
- More likely than not, a mislynch might occur.
- Mafia would probably throw the blame on whoever was part of the mislynch next day.
- Night kill is most likely going to be on someone who's been inactive so far.


here we see him doing what i would do if i were mafia: spout off logical and statistical information in an attempt to be helpful without actually addrssing the reality of the situation.

the reality is that if day1 hits the good 20 page mark, and it almost all the players participate in discussion, we have amazingly good odds to start nailing mafia stating with the day1 lynch vote.

kureon seems to be playing slightly more lowkey then normal
i dont like sharshocker's list of (IMO) slightly misleading facts
and i dont like how zero seemed to be jumping on FC, it seemed like he was attacking soeone simply for the sake of being seen to attack someone (maybe him in particular?)

with kureno not quite as active as he usually is in early games, it makes me nervous that both yoy and fc appear (to me) to be townies. i would think that out of the 3 of us (me yoy fc) one of us would have been put into the mafia group, but maybe we got lucky and have all 3 of us as townies this game...

[Zerker]

@mod where the roles give out at random?

[Kurono.]

FoS Tenken

The fact that you would blindly vote for Candlejack because he hasn't posted is highly suspicious. Before the game even started, he said himself that he wouldn't be on until late tonight. Maybe you forgot, or it was a scum move that went wrong. Not quite sure, but I'm watching you.

Toxic` why didn't you answer my question?

[Zerker]

OKAY GUYS. HOP OFF THE PEOPLE VOTING FOR RANDOM PEOPLE AND HOP OFF TOXIC GOING NO LYNCH

Toxic going no lynch is actually a towntell.

[sharkshocker]

we have had some great consistency lynching a scum day1 here

in general, townies are able to play recklessly, while mafia have to be very careful and calculate each action. every time they post they have a voice in the back of their head wondering if later in the game any particular post is going to tie them to one of their scum buddies or otherwise incriminate them.

normally we have 2 super spammers in most of our large games, jordan and yoy. jordan was blacklisted last game and it will be a while longer before he is allowed to play again. this is the first time i have seen yoy doing his thing "frequent vote hops trying to draw a bandwagon picture" without jordan throwing out a slightly different series of attacks.

in our last 5 large games:
bloodwise mafia, day1 votes were targeting reaperzero (mafia) before day ended via ability
halo mafia, day1 lynch nailed a mafia
digimon mafia, day1 lynch nailed a mafia
slox mafia, day1 lynch was a mafia
terminator mafia ended day1 with a no-lynch, but 2 mafia and 0 townies were killed day1 via abilities.

(this pattern might hold true for minimafias, but im not sure since several of those i dont read...)


compare this information against what sharkshocker posted:




here we see him doing what i would do if i were mafia: spout off logical and statistical information in an attempt to be helpful without actually addrssing the reality of the situation.

the reality is that if day1 hits the good 20 page mark, and it almost all the players participate in discussion, we have amazingly good odds to start nailing mafia stating with the day1 lynch vote.

kureon seems to be playing slightly more lowkey then normal
i dont like sharshocker's list of (IMO) slightly misleading facts
and i dont like how zero seemed to be jumping on FC, it seemed like he was attacking soeone simply for the sake of being seen to attack someone (maybe him in particular?)

with kureno not quite as active as he usually is in early games, it makes me nervous that both yoy and fc appear (to me) to be townies. i would think that out of the 3 of us (me yoy fc) one of us would have been put into the mafia group, but maybe we got lucky and have all 3 of us as townies this game...

Whatah, the fact that you consider my list to be misleading is a towntell...Kanzo's agreement with them is not.

I guess I have been playing more mini than big mafias, been seeing mislynches lately.

Vote Kanzo

[Zerker]

Whatah, the fact that you consider my list to be misleading is a towntell...Kanzo's agreement with them is not.

I guess I have been playing more mini than big mafias, been seeing mislynches lately.

Vote Kanzo
I agree with your list as well.

[sharkshocker]

Well I can't both for vote of you now, can I? :)

Also he's more suspicious for just dropping in and out.

[Zerker]

I believe that you thought you were helping the town. Kanzo came and agreed.
Then, whatah destroyed your list and you looked bad.
You then was like "I WAS A TARP!! KANZO YOU IS SCUM!!!!!"
I think you are mafia tbh imo tbh

unvote
Vote Sharkshocker

[Zero]

FoS Sharkshocker
FoS Whatah

i find it odd that you would just tell us that the list was bait and then use it to cover for whatah

i think that these two might have a mason thing going on here

definately seems suspicious

[Red]

yoy pushes everyone until we all just give in and vote for someone so that he'll shut up.

I lol'd.


The game I play this game is to assume that everyone is mafia. MDL is this how you play too? or are you the type of person that assumes that everyone is town until proven otherwise?

You've never assumed that everyone else is mafia unless proven otherwise in mafia games before? O.o;;


oh. just read your sig.

I'll wait until I'm sure, then. unvote.

That award is a total farce. Pretty much all the people voting don't even play mafia.

That and you're going off the assumption he is Townie, which is rather silly.


Bad Townie > Alive Mafia

No need to end Day 1 so early guys. Make it last so some of us can get an idea who to/not to trust.

This.


Vote Count

MysticalDL (2) - KeSha, EcoReck Understandable
No Lynch (1) - Toxic' XD Worst move to make
Yoy (1) - YamiJoey Random vote for RVS...?
Toxic' (1) - Yoy Incredibly understandable
Vincent K (1) - Prime Minister FC I'm going to presume this is a random vote
Candlejack (1) - Tenken Definitely a random vote
BetterThanYou (1) - MysticalDL Misguided vote

Yet to vote
Kurono, Vincent, Whatah, Bloodwize, Sharkshocker, Candlejack, Vincent K ,BetterThanYou, Jedah, ZeratoPrime, Zero, Solf J. Kimblee, Kanzo93

Added my opinion on each vote in the quote.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 11:25 AM ----------

Oh. I didn't notice the eight page.

[Eco]

@mod where the roles give out at random?


Roles are always given out at random.

[Zerker]

Vincent K is mafia.
If I get silenced/killed. VK is mafia and should be lynched.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 01:17 PM ----------


Roles are always given out at random.
That's an incorrect statement, sir.

Think of this game as a "show" for the host.

[YamiJoey]

You, BetterThanYou, and Toxic are all under my thumb right now. Yoy stays voted. I believe his lynching won't bother him much for some kind of reason, either some kind of Scum ability, Jester, or he's unlynchable and want's to make a point about it to /confirm himself. If that's true, bad play on Yoy's part, unless there's a REALLY good reason for that.

My vote on Yoy was not random. His actions seemed (and still seem) scummy.

YJ

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:58 PM ----------

EBWOP: "If I die; X is Mafia" is WIFOM. Scumtell.

How is Toxic voting No Lynch a Town tell? The only thing I can see in that is WIFOM, of a "Too Town" argument being counteracted.

YJ

[Tenken]

FoS Tenken

The fact that you would blindly vote for Candlejack because he hasn't posted is highly suspicious. Before the game even started, he said himself that he wouldn't be on until late tonight. Maybe you forgot, or it was a scum move that went wrong. Not quite sure, but I'm watching you.

Toxic` why didn't you answer my question?
I was about to take my vote off him, because he doesn't seem mafia, until you defended him for no reason, well you defended him so you could attack me.

Either he isn't mafia, or the mafia really doesn't want to help their own. But you took the chance to throw out an "attack" on me. Regardless I think you are both town.

Town
Kasha
Kurono
CandleJack
MysticalDragonLord
more

I have nothing else/nothing at all.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 03:12 PM ----------

I am not trying to throw off Kurono's attack on me by trying to gain his alliance. Simply saying I think he is town.

[Zerker]

Tenken, how is CandleJack town when he hasn't posted?

FoS Tenken.

YamiJoey is either scum or a bad town.
no mvp for u!

[Tenken]

A lot of people haven't posted and are town.

I realize you are saying we cannot get a read on CJ if he doesn't post, but I still believe him to be town at this point, because no one has tried to defend him (Partially due to my attack not causing any discussion at all/we might all be town right now).

Ehh could be wrong, just saying what I think.

[Riddle]

OKAY GUYS. HOP OFF THE PEOPLE VOTING FOR RANDOM PEOPLE AND HOP OFF TOXIC GOING NO LYNCH

Toxic going no lynch is actually a towntell.

Maybe some catch up with that order?

[ZeratoPrime]

A lot of people haven't posted and are town.

I realize you are saying we cannot get a read on CJ if he doesn't post, but I still believe him to be town at this point, because no one has tried to defend him (Partially due to my attack not causing any discussion at all/we might all be town right now).

Ehh could be wrong, just saying what I think.

All I got from this is defending someone=not Town. Maybe I'm off base here.

[Zerker]

Tenken, VK, BetterThanYou, are obv mafia.

[Tenken]

And yet yoy doesn't vote, because he is obv wrong.

[ZeratoPrime]

I'm a little suspicious of Tenken and BetterThanYou, but not VK. Why do you think he is Mafia Yoy?

[Hebi]

Seems my vote on Haxes was ignored :(

Baw.

[ZeratoPrime]

Seems my vote on Haxes was ignored :(

Baw.

I weep for you Hebeh.

[MysticalDL]

Tenken, VK, BetterThanYou, are obv mafia.

Reason for the suspicions?

I can understand suspicion on BetterThanYou, but not the suspicions on VK and Tenken, so mind explaining those?

[Tenken]

Vote Count

MysticalDL (2) - KeSha, EcoReck
No Lynch (1) - Toxic'
Yoy (1) - YamiJoey
Toxic' (1) - Yoy
Vincent K (1) - Prime Minister FC
Candlejack (1) - Tenken
BetterThanYou (1) - MysticalDL

Yet to vote
Kurono, Vincent, Whatah, Bloodwize, Sharkshocker, Candlejack, Vincent K ,BetterThanYou, Jedah, ZeratoPrime, Zero, Solf J. Kimblee, Kanzo93
Hebi doesn't even get a vote.

[MysticalDL]

i think possibly 3 mafia are already on the list of voted IMO, I mean I get random votes for proposing we vote off a bad townie/potential mafia scum. That makes no sense.

[Eco]

In past experiences, the people who try their hardest do defend someone, both the person defending and the defendant are both mafias.

[ZeratoPrime]

i think possibly 3 mafia are already on the list of voted IMO, I mean I get random votes for proposing we vote off a bad townie/potential mafia scum. That makes no sense.

idgi, explain please.

[Haxes]

@mod where the roles give out at random?
Yes.


Seems my vote on Haxes was ignored :(

Baw.
>:3


Hebi doesn't even get a vote.
I put him on there, but then I'm just thinking in my head... I don't want people voting for me to be stupid. So I deleted his vote and forgot to put him at the bottom under someone who has yet to vote.

[Vincent]

In past experiences, the people who try their hardest do defend someone, both the person defending and the defendant are both mafias.

I agree with this. If one person is defending another without making the town believe them (Mason, cop, etc.), there's a chance that they are scum.

I'll go back and read to find who I think is suspicious.

[Flame Champion]

unvote vk; no one raged or bandwaggoned. Not even VK.











so guys, who's the guiltiest person in this thread?

[Zerker]

Tenken, VK, BetterThanYou, Kesha, Kanzo, and possibly whatah are mafia

unvote

[MysticalDL]

idgi, explain please.

ok its realy simple

why vote for somebody who is trying to help out the town by saying we should get rid of this problematic guy who maybe either a really bad townie that could cause confusion and chaos later on in game, or a chance that person could be mafia. Either scenario is really a win/win for us. Cause if we keep a disruptive bad townie, that can actually work more in favor of mafia, by allowing them to possibly influence him and cause even more disruption and chaos.

[Flame Champion]

Tenken, VK, BetterThanYou, Kesha, Kanzo, and possibly whatah are mafia

unvote
that's pretty early for a "yoy's list of guaranteed scum"...

and you have a purple username. what are the odds that both committee members are townies? I am townie, and you even said so yourself that i'm trustworthy, so logically, you must be scum. unless we're both scum and you're trying to back me up. But since im not, you must be scum trying to look like a townie backing me up.

amirite?

[ZeratoPrime]

ok its realy simple

why vote for somebody who is trying to help out the town by saying we should get rid of this problematic guy who maybe either a really bad townie that could cause confusion and chaos later on in game, or a chance that person could be mafia.

Everyone has a chance to be Mafia, be they problematic or not.

Either scenario is really a win/win for us.

Wrong, my friend. Killing a Townie is never a win for the Town, just less of a loss than an experienced one.

Cause if we keep a disruptive bad townie, that can actually work more in favor of mafia, by allowing them to possibly influence him and cause even more disruption and chaos.

If that ever become the case, we can eliminate him later on or, even better, just ignore him until he becomes too much of a risk. THEN is the only good time I can see to pew pew pew a Townie.


Read the red shizzle.

Like I said earlier, we don't need to end the day prematurely.

[MysticalDL]

Read the red shizzle.

Like I said earlier, we don't need to end the day prematurely.

Not asking for day to end prematurely, just stating IMO, we should get rid of a problematic townie, if we cant find any clues to who is scum by end of day.

[ZeratoPrime]

Not asking for day to end prematurely, just stating IMO, we should get rid of a problematic townie, if we cant find any clues to who is scum by end of day.

So you have no idea who is scum at this point? Not saying I do, but want to know if you do.

[Red]

Not asking for day to end prematurely, just stating IMO, we should get rid of a problematic townie, if we cant find any clues to who is scum by end of day.

Yoy seems to think the "problematic Townie" is mafia.

[Tenken]

So you have no idea who is scum at this point? Not saying I do, but want to know if you do.
It is obvious no one has solid proof.

Why make him state that he has no scum, and further weaken his attack on BetterThanYou?

[BetterThanYou]

uh, betterthanyou isnt scum.

I'll be re-reading. Try to get on track people.

[Zerker]

MDL now assumes that the person causing confusion is town.

[Candlejack]

ohheywatsgoinoninthisthread?

[Zerker]

oh hey cj!

are you mafia?

[Candlejack]

oh hey cj!

are you mafia?

Someone has to be.

Also.
I've kinda sorta read through the thread.
Basically just skimmed from page 3 forward. (I.e. "read")

FoS Vincent

Notice how he does that thing, "I'll be reading the thread and post later" k guy. It's been later. The fact we were like 7 pages deep, it wouldn't take much. He seems afraid imo.

[MysticalDL]

So you have no idea who is scum at this point? Not saying I do, but want to know if you do.

most people seem to think of BetterThanYou as a problematic Townie, I personally dont know whether or not if he is a problematic townie, or mafia. I'm at a 50/50 split on that decision to be honest.

Also i never assumed BetterThanYou was townie or mafia. I have been stating from the start lynching BetterThanYou would be a win-win situation, cause if he is a problematic townie, then we just removed a problem that we wont have to worry about later in the game. If he is mafia, then that is best case scenario for us, cause then we have one less mafia scum to find and lynch later on.

@BetterThanYou: thanks for all but confirming yourself as scum. Obviously you would wish to state that you are not mafia scum in hopes that some people will believe it, so that you could try to work in the seeds of deception and confusion amongst us.

[BetterThanYou]

Well I had a really long post replying to everyone elses posts (if they mattered), but it got deleted, and I don't feel like typing it again.

Basic conclusion is that Yoy and and MDL are either idiots or scum, and I'll cite why if it isn't obvious.

But there was a lot more, that I forgot.

So I'm pissed now. I'll be back when I'm not pissed and have time.

there was some funny repetitive thing I remember reading about "chaos and confusion", that I'm a "bad townie", and can be "influenced by the scum". Could whoever said that explain it more fully? It also seemed that this person knew I was town and still wanted me dead.

So which scum do we lynch first? I dislike MDL more, but Mr. Mafia Player of the Year could be a big threat if he's scum.

I mean, YJ is assuming that because Yoy is so scummy, he must want to be lynched. That's scary :(

vote Yoy

[Eco]

MDL, not all problematic townies are bad. He could be a vigilante, which is a problematic townie. If you kill a Vigilante, you've killed a big important role for the townies.

My vote still stays for you. Your theories make absolutely no sense and you just keep getting more suspicious everytime you post.

[BetterThanYou]

most people seem to think of BetterThanYou as a problematic Townie, I personally dont know whether or not if he is a problematic townie, or mafia. I'm at a 50/50 split on that decision to be honest.

Also i never assumed BetterThanYou was townie or mafia. I have been stating from the start lynching BetterThanYou would be a win-win situation, cause if he is a problematic townie, then we just removed a problem that we wont have to worry about later in the game. If he is mafia, then that is best case scenario for us, cause then we have one less mafia scum to find and lynch later on.

@BetterThanYou: thanks for all but confirming yourself as scum. Obviously you would wish to state that you are not mafia scum in hopes that some people will believe it, so that you could try to work in the seeds of deception and confusion amongst us.


I'm not a problematic townie. Please site posts where I act problematic.

And then site posts where I'm scummy.

omfg you are so slow. Obviously everyone here wants people to think he is town.

MDL, you said I was trying hard to look like town. Cite examples.

Really, now you've got my head spinning. (look at bold part).

So if I'm a problematic townie, then the lynch will be good even though I'm town, and you've already made obvious that you know this.

[Eco]

So BTY, if you're a townie, what role are you then?

[BetterThanYou]

MDL, not all problematic townies are bad. He could be a vigilante, which is a problematic townie. If you kill a Vigilante, you've killed a big important role for the townies.

My vote still stays for you. Your theories make absolutely no sense and you just keep getting more suspicious everytime you post.


how am i problematic? O.o

What does this have to do with abilities?

[Hebi]

Vote Candlejack

I love you really :(

[Eco]

how am i problematic? O.o

What does this have to do with abilities?

Because some roles aren't Pro-Town or Mafia.

[BetterThanYou]

So BTY, if you're a townie, what role are you then?


you said you were expirienced at mafia?

[MysticalDL]

Well I had a really long post replying to everyone elses posts (if they mattered), but it got deleted, and I don't feel like typing it again.

Basic conclusion is that Yoy and and MDL are either idiots or scum, and I'll cite why if it isn't obvious.

Obviously that is what you would want us to believe, but that is also a telltale scum tell.

But there was a lot more, that I forgot.

So I'm pissed now. I'll be back when I'm not pissed and have time.

there was some funny repetitive thing I remember reading about "chaos and confusion", that I'm a "bad townie", and can be "influenced by the scum". Could whoever said that explain it more fully? It also seemed that this person knew I was town and still wanted me dead.

How do we know for a fact that you are indeed town? Alot of people can claim to be town, but that is usually a telltale mafia tactic that is used.

So which scum do we lynch first? I dislike MDL more, but Mr. Mafia Player of the Year could be a big threat if he's scum.

the scum we should be worried about lynching is you, because even if you are townie, which I am highly doubting right now, then it would not be a nessicarily big lose for the town.

I mean, YJ is assuming that because Yoy is so scummy, he must want to be lynched. That's scary :(

Are you already giving out the name of a fellow mafia scum? Or is this just another ploy you are trying to use to try and confuse us?

vote Yoy

my answers are in red

[Eco]

Of course. And if you're a townie like you say you are, I'm sure you'll have no problem claiming what is your role.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:04 PM ----------

Same goes for you DL.

[MysticalDL]

omfg the rvs is even stupider here than what I'm used to <.<

Yoy is going crazy. FoS Yoy Does he usually act bipolar?

FoS Toxic for voting no lynch even though the game just started.



the game just started

/really doesn't like Yoy's voting pattern

vote Yoy

gogogogogo yoy wagon

If there's a jester in this game, I'm never playing mafia here again. This one was reviewed, rite?

Here is one example, throwing out FOS with no real evidence for it. Makes it seem like you was trying to set up something as well.


It's always better to lynch someone Day 1; to get info about the game from their role and posts, etc.

Why would you vote for no good reason?

Tell me, if you don't want a no lynch and don't plan to push it, what's the difference between what you're doing and not voting?

Seem to be wanting to cause some controversy here. Also seem to wanting to rush voting and lynching, which can be percieved as a mafia ploy.


There is no jester. There's almost never a jester. It's always bad to think there's a jester.

Tell me more about why you think FC is scummy.

unvote; vote yoy again

You're all scum except me and my 4 masons. That's what I assume when I play. <.<

There's a scum connection between yoy and...ah, I'll save that for later.

---------- Post added January 15th, 2010 at 11:21 PM ----------


OCD is an epidemic, it seems.

EcoReck, how expirienced are you at mafia?

Toxic, same Q.


oh. just read your sig.

I'll wait until I'm sure, then. unvote.

here is another suspicious post, unvoting somebody just based on their sig, that makes no sense at all and makes me wonder why you done so.


obviously our little mafia player of the year could become useful as the game progresses, if he is town.

If he isnt, we don't lynch him until we are more sure he is, or save him for tomorrow, after he tells us who all his scumbuds are.

doyouunderstandnao?

Seems like you are trying too hard at presenting a case in my opinion.


uh, betterthanyou isnt scum.

I'll be re-reading. Try to get on track people.

Standard mafia tactic to claim they are not scum and that they are town instead.

[Red]

So which scum do we lynch first? I dislike MDL more, but Mr. Mafia Player of the Year could be a big threat if he's scum.

I'll let you in on a little secret. Pretty much anyone who has seen Yoy play as a Townie knows when he is scum. He's so obvious that it's easy to figure out.

Thus far, Yoy is just being Yoy. He doesn't have that giant sign above is head that says "I'm mafia".

[MysticalDL]

Indeed when Yoy is mafia, he tends to claim that he is setting up some elaborate traps that when inspected arent really traps at all.

[Eco]

DL, Voy, and Vincent are Mafia. Suspicions on BetterThanYou.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:31 PM ----------

Being 22 Players, then 5 people must be Mafia.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:32 PM ----------

That is, of course, if Haxes, followed the "1 Mafia per 4 people" recommendation.

[Candlejack]

That happens when he's townie too.
Also, they aren't "traps". He just posts and if someone posts something he doesn't have something to say to, then it's a trap.

[MysticalDL]

DL, Voy, and Vincent are Mafia. Suspicions on BetterThanYou.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:31 PM ----------

Being 22 Players, then 5 people must be Mafia.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:32 PM ----------

That is, of course, if Haxes, followed the "1 Mafia per 4 people" recommendation.

Ok really, and why am I "mafia"?

is it because I have not done as you asked and not been stupid enough to give out my role?

that seems like a very telltale sign that you are mafia going around asking people to state their roles.

[Eco]

As I stated before, people who have no reason to defend other people, those people are probably Mafia. It has nothing to do with what I asked before.

[Candlejack]

that seems like a very telltale sign that you are mafia going around asking people to state their roles.

It's called "fishing".

[Flame Champion]

DL, Voy, and Vincent are Mafia. Suspicions on BetterThanYou.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:31 PM ----------

Being 22 Players, then 5 people must be Mafia.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:32 PM ----------

That is, of course, if Haxes, followed the "1 Mafia per 4 people" recommendation.
there's probably more. the recommended ratio is not 1:4, but rather, greater than 1:3.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 07:40 PM ----------

oh ps guys im a cop/doc/mafia killer all in one with 2 masons. don't kill me.

[Eco]

...Jesus FC, you don't know your roles do you?

Cops can PM the mod to inspect someones role over the night and they will be replied back with that Target's role. A Doctor can PM the mod to protect someone from getting killed by mafia over the night. A Vigilante can kill anyone, not mafia.

Suspicions on FC.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:44 PM ----------

If that IS your role, then I call this game a godmodded bull****.

[Candlejack]

there's probably more. the recommended ratio is not 1:4, but rather, greater than 1:3.



He said 1 for every 4 people. Which is 1:3. :|

[Hebi]

I don't think we should vote FC if he is both the doctor and the cop and a mafia killer. Logical move is logical, obv <3

[Flame Champion]

[/SIZE][/COLOR]

He said 1 for every 4 people. Which is 1:3. :|
oh.

I cant maths =/

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 07:47 PM ----------


...Jesus FC, you don't know your roles do you?

Cops can PM the mod to inspect someones role over the night and they will be replied back with that Target's role. A Doctor can PM the mod to protect someone from getting killed by mafia over the night. A Vigilante can kill anyone, not mafia.

Suspicions on FC.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:44 PM ----------

If that IS your role, then I call this game a godmodded bull****.
FoS Ecoreck.

[BetterThanYou]

EcoReck, normally role fishing is a scumtell, but I'm gonna let it slide for you, since I don't think you're all that smart. Are you SURE that you are good at this?

*yawns*

I really don't feel like role claiming today.

Role claiming is always bad unless you have to, or it helps the town (like a cop wanting to reveal his results), mainly because you're giving the mafia more information.
The mafia gets to kill someone every Night. If my role is awesome, they'll kill me. If my role sucks, when they would have killed me, someone else will die. Maybe someone with a better role.

Now that I'm done teaching you something you should already know, I'll go ahead and say this, so that the town will kill the right guy tomorrow if I'm somehow lynched.

I'll role claim when votes on me are at L-1 (1 vote left to reach majority and lynch me). It doesnt seem likely that this will happen, but who knows (refer to where YJ decided Yoy must be a jester to act scummy).
So don't lynch me before I role claim, or at least wait until I post until casting the last vote. This is very important, because doing so will result in animousity against you the following Day, since I'll be flipped as town, and all this could have been prevented if I role claimed, and you had not cast the last vote.

@MDL: plz don't quote my post and put your responses there. I know that you don't understand this, but your attack is VERY bad. If people decide to agree with it, I'll FULLY explain how it's wrong, but until then, I'll kindly ask you to review your attack and/or stfu. You won't, but it makes me feel good to ask.

You're saying that I am a bad townie who should be lynched, without saying why I'm a bad townie, for one thing. Then you change your story saying, "I'm 50% sure this guys is mafia" (really bad percentage considering that this is a game where you try to lynch scum), and now you're calling things scumtells...that arent scumtells. And a lot of it is very hypocritical.

VK, I'll refer to this if Yoy flips scum.

[Candlejack]

All that lavender is getting to your head.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 05:51 PM ----------


EcoReck, normally role fishing is a scumtell, but I'm gonna let it slide for you, since I don't think you're all that smart. Are you SURE that you are good at this?

*yawns*

I really don't feel like role claiming today.

Role claiming is always bad unless you have to, or it helps the town (like a cop wanting to reveal his results), mainly because you're giving the mafia more information.



8. No role claiming, aside from generic role claims.
Ex.
(I'm a cop) is fine.
(I'm Player A) is not.


Yeah. I didn't bother reading the rest.

[Flame Champion]

All that lavender is getting to your head.
its medium orchid ***.

[BetterThanYou]

Wierd I thought I had made this post:

I'll role claim when enough pressure is on me, even though I dont expect it.

It feels like the attack on me is really weak. If I'm wrong, could someone with good standing as a mafia player tell me otherwise?

Basically, I'm claiming when votes become L-1.
Don't cast the hammer until I get a chance to claim. That is all.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:52 PM ----------

CJ, obv I can still claim cop, mason, etc.

[Candlejack]

its medium orchid ***.

Definitely lavender.

[Flame Champion]

Definitely lavender.
medium orchid. lavender is for ***s.

[Hebi]

Definitely lavender.

Goldenrod is better

[Candlejack]

lavender is for me.

I agree.
Lavender it is.

Hebi- ikr?

[Eco]

My Totals -

Almost sure is a Mafia:

- MysticalDL (Making baseless theories about random people being mafia scum and quick to defend certain people.)
- Voy (Constantly defending other members about not being mafia, which is suspicious)
- Vincent K (Defending other members for no actual reason)

Possible Member of the Mafia/Suspicious:

- Prime Minister FC (Having a role that makes absolutely no sense for being godmodded)
- Hebi (Seems to have believed FC's claim too easily)

[MysticalDL]

Goldenrod is better

I dunno it looks more like a pinkish-purple blend if you ask me.

[Eco]

In the game of mafia, trust NO ONE.

[Red]

DL, Voy, and Vincent are Mafia. Suspicions on BetterThanYou.

Can you clarify for me if you mean Vincent or myself? I suppose you would have said "VK" if you meant me, but you never know.


...Jesus FC, you don't know your roles do you?

Cops can PM the mod to inspect someones role over the night and they will be replied back with that Target's role. A Doctor can PM the mod to protect someone from getting killed by mafia over the night. A Vigilante can kill anyone, not mafia.

Suspicions on FC.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 06:44 PM ----------

If that IS your role, then I call this game a godmodded bull****.

FC's screwing around majorly.


VK, I'll refer to this if Yoy flips scum.

Sounds good, as I could always be wrong.

[MysticalDL]

My Totals -

Almost sure is a Mafia:

- MysticalDL (Making baseless theories about random people being mafia scum and quick to defend certain people.)
- Voy (Constantly defending other members about not being mafia, which is suspicious)
- Vincent K (Defending other members for no actual reason)

Possible Member of the Mafia/Suspicious:

- Prime Minister FC (Having a role that makes absolutely no sense for being godmodded)
- Hebi (Seems to have believed FC's claim too easily)


please do tell me who I was defending?

also from the start I said you was either a problematic townie or mafia, from the very beginning. I could easily prove this with past post.

[BetterThanYou]

O I did make that post O.o

well, I'm getting off track now. If Yoy isnt here yet, Ima go work on my attack on MDL, my attack on Yoy, and my pointing out the obvwrong in MDL's attack (saving this for last)

So you gais won't be bored, I leave you with this potentially interesting Q:

Do you think I am scum/scummy? Why? If its because of MDL's attack, please explain what part of it you believe, and why.

Also, I ask that you vote for me if you think I am scum, like a good town does. That'll help the town with scumfinding later.

[Red]

Almost sure is a Mafia:

- MysticalDL (Making baseless theories about random people being mafia scum and quick to defend certain people.)
- Voy (Constantly defending other members about not being mafia, which is suspicious)
- Vincent K (Defending other members for no actual reason)

Defending whom?

[Eco]

If you haven't noticed from all my posts on the other threads of this forum, I have a very hostile personality. Basing your theory on what I say makes no sense.

[Candlejack]

Basing your theory on what I say makes no sense.

Lol.

[BetterThanYou]

In the game of mafia, trust NO ONE.

you need to learn how to contrast mafia with life.

In the game of mafia, you trust the townies, obv. Unless you're scum. Are you scum?

Also:

EcoRey, HIS NAME IS ****ING YOY. NOT VOY.

[Eco]

Defending whom?

Voy. You're saying he isn't mafia because he's "just being Voy". Like I said before, I'm probably going to be acting Hostile in all mafia games weather I'm a Townie or a Mafia. So basing someones suspicion on the way they post is definitely suspicious itself.

[Candlejack]

So, guys.
Can we start taking this seriously, or are we just going to joke around for the first 20 pages?

[Eco]

you need to learn how to contrast mafia with life.

In the game of mafia, you trust the townies, obv. Unless you're scum. Are you scum?

Also:

EcoRey, HIS NAME IS ****ING YOY. NOT VOY.

Blah. I misread my Vs and Ys on this font.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 07:05 PM ----------

HEY GUYS I FIXED STUFF NOW.

Almost sure is a Mafia:

- MysticalDL (Making baseless theories about random people being mafia scum and quick to defend certain people.)
- Yoy (Constantly defending other members about not being mafia, which is suspicious)
- Vincent K (Defending Yoy just because of the "way he posts".)

Possible Member of the Mafia/Suspicious:

- Prime Minister FC (Having a role that makes absolutely no sense for being godmodded)
- Hebi (Seems to have believed FC's claim too easily)

[Candlejack]

What about everyone else, Eco?

[Eco]

One more thing guys, if I was indeed Mafia, then I wouldn't need to Role fish seeing as I would already know who are my Mafia comrades and who aren't.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 07:08 PM ----------

CandleJack: No one has stuck out as much as those 5 to me.

[BetterThanYou]

EcoReck, do you know the townie's roles, too?

EcoReck is either obvtown or really good at acting stupid <.<

[Candlejack]

One more thing guys, if I was indeed Mafia, then I wouldn't need to Role fish seeing as I would already know who are my Mafia comrades and who aren't.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 07:08 PM ----------

CandleJack: No one has stuck out as much as those 5 to me.


:|

Role fishing is asking for roles.
Mafia or town. It's a HIDDEN factor. So town or mafia can do it. It's just a scummy thing in general.

[Hebi]

Townies:
Hebi

Mafia:
Everyone else

This is going to take a lot of work, I can tell

[Eco]

EcoReck, do you know the townie's roles, too?

EcoReck is either obvtown or really good at acting stupid <.<


Please rephrase what you're asking. Are you asking for a list of all the roles, or are you asking if I know specific member's roles?

[BetterThanYou]

lol @ how EcoReck took hebi & FC seriously.

Well, I don't like insulting a noob.

EcoReck, FC's RC was not serious, nor was Hebi's response. If it seems unbelievably ridiculous, then its sarcasm. Internet sarcasm. The best/worst kind that has ever existed.

Except telephone sarcasm. Telephone sarcasm kills.

But yea, lets stop joking around.

[Red]

Like I said before, I'm probably going to be acting Hostile in all mafia games weather I'm a Townie or a Mafia.

Noted.

[BetterThanYou]

Please rephrase what you're asking. Are you asking for a list of all the roles, or are you asking if I know specific member's roles?

EcoReck, the mafia doesn't know the townie's roles. That's what they're trying to find out.

They want to kill the guys with the good roles. Do you want everyone with good roles to claim right now so the mafia can kill the cop, the doc, and everyone else?

[Eco]

So guys, I heard Mafia games cause massive Drama Bombs.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 07:15 PM ----------


EcoReck, the mafia doesn't know the townie's roles. That's what they're trying to find out.

They want to kill the guys with the good roles. Do you want everyone with good roles to claim right now so the mafia can kill the cop, the doc, and everyone else?

However its easier for Mafia because they already know who is Scum and who isn't. For Townies, they don't know who is either.

[Red]

Eco...to clarify, roles = type of ability; alliance = which side you're on I.E. Townie, Mafia, Neutral

[BetterThanYou]

I'm gonna vote for the scum who is online right now.

vote hebi

get serious or get suicidal

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 07:18 PM ----------

ok, this drama thing is fun

[Izaya]

Checking in. Sorry for being late.

[Eco]

Eco...to clarify, roles = type of ability; alliance = which side you're on I.E. Townie, Mafia, Neutral

I know. What I'm saying right now is that for Mafia members, they know who is mafia and who isn't, so they know specifically who to defend/vote off. Townies don't know who are townies or who are mafias so they can't make a decisive decision.

And yes, I realize you guys could easily use my defense right against me by saying I'm mafia by interrogating who I know isn't, but I've already stated a few good reasons why I suspect those people.

[Red]

I know. What I'm saying right now is that for Mafia members, they know who is mafia and who isn't, so they know specifically who to defend/vote off. Townies don't know who are townies or who are mafias so they can't make a decisive decision.

And yes, I realize you guys could easily use my defense right against me by saying I'm mafia by interrogating who I know isn't, but I've already stated a few good reasons why I suspect those people.

Actually, I was thinking you're going after some of the more active players.

[Eco]

Why would I target players because they're active?

[BetterThanYou]

EcoReck, I'm dissappointed in you.

Here:

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Theory

go to the wiki, and read whatever you can. It'll make you awesomer.

---------- Post added January 16th, 2010 at 07:38 PM ----------


Why would I target players because they're active?

because they could be scum?

[Eco]

BTY, I've heard of Mafiascum Wiki a LONG time ago. This definitely not my first time playing on a forum and it will certainly not be my last.

[Hebi]

I am serious.

Everyone is mafia until I know otherwise. Simple concept to grasp, no?