Grand Theft Auto IV Mafia [Town Wins]

[Red]

GRAND THEFT AUTO IV MAFIA


I cut 15 roles (OUCH) to make it playable with 20 players, and with the roles randomized I must say I am quite pleased with the results.

Roles will be sent out in the order you signed up.

Are there any specific rules to note? Yes, and they are related to the two mafia factions.

The Russian Crime syndicate performs their night-kills only on odd numbered nights.
The Pegorinos perform night-kills on every even day. When either of the two is completely wiped out, the other takes over their schedule.


1. ZeratoPrime
2. Flame Champion
3. Eddie Fenix
4. KeSha
5. Solf J. Kimblee
6. Vincent
7. Slox
8. Rorschach'
9. Teki Fhrost
10. Yoy
11. Kurono.
12. Toxic`
13. Archangel
14. MysticalDL
15. Dempt
16. midnightfox
17. Shadeas24
18. Lulu in Zero
19. Candlejack
20. Jedah

Game Update(s)

Day 1


Tenken subbed out for Toxic`
Slox [Real Badman - Townie] and Teki Fhrost [Ray Bulgarin - Russian Crime Syndicate] mod-killed Day 1
Guile subbed out for FC
Jedah [Phil Bell - Pegorino Family] lynched


Night 1


Lulu in Zero [Yusuf Amir - Townie] night-killed by vigilante
Archangel [Ray Boccino - Pegorino Family] night-killed by Russian Crime Syndicate

Day 2



Yoy [Niko Bellic - Townie] lynched


Night 2



Dempt [Jimmy Pegorino - Pegorino Family] mod-killed
Pegorino family eliminated
Candlejack [Little Jacob - Townie] night-killed by vigilante

Day 3


Toxic` [Dimitri Rascalov - Russian Crime Syndicate] lynched


Night 3


midnightfox [Terry Thrope - Townie] night-killed by multiple parties


---------- Post added March 6th, 2010 at 04:10 PM ----------


NIGHT 0
A PERSON HAS DIED

DAY 1 START

Early this morning the body of a jogger was found decapitated and sexually violated. This marks the third death by a proposed serial killer.

Jogger [Nonexistent Player] has died.

Jogger
Townie

Deus ex machina

[Candlejack]

PHURST

[MysticalDL]

checking in

[Omega Red]

Checking in.

[Tenken]

Why do people check in, when it says day 1 already started?

[Omega Red]

Question is why not?

[Teki Fhrost]

Just checking in for now

[Omega Red]

For now?

[Tenken]

For now?
?
??

[Omega Red]

Maybe hintig that he's planning something for later right?

[Zerker]

Oh god, this is gonna be one hella game.
YOY IS BACK!

Roarshack, why so jumpy?

[Jedah]

I am here.

[Candlejack]

Maybe hintig that he's planning something for later right?

Yep, I did miss you.

[Omega Red]

Yep, I did miss you.

Miss me?

[Zerker]

The chances that CandleJack and Roarshack are on a mafia faction is very high imo

[Omega Red]

The chances that CandleJack and Roarshack are on a mafia faction is very high imo

No u!

[Zerker]

FoS Tenken.

I scanned him and my scan failed.

[.Ðempt]

HAI!

SCANNING FOR SCUM *Bleep bleep bleep*

[Kurono.]

Hey :3

Need more scum to post.

[S l o x]

Yo

[Vincent]

Checking in.

[Zerker]

I see a correlation between people not taking this seriously and the people afraid to call said people out. hmmm

[.Ðempt]

Agreed. Ill operate from the left, you take the right.

gogogo

[Eddie Fenix]

Hittin the middle! Ill catch up with everything tommorrow, need to get some sleep for 1,000,000% efficiency on scum hunting after the long day ive had!

[Zerker]

As long as the other faction don't night-kill me, I should be okay

---------- Post added March 6th, 2010 at 09:55 PM ----------

other faction as the TWO other factions, obv typo was obv...

---------- Post added March 6th, 2010 at 09:55 PM ----------

the TWO mafia factions, jedahdammittttt

[midnightfox]

Checking in.

[Zerker]

NO CHECKING IN.
YOU EITHER CONTRIBUTE OR GTFO SCUM

[Pepsi]

checkin in

[Jedah]

How can we contribute with no leads? :\

[Zerker]

TAMMEERRRRRRRRRAAGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!

---------- Post added March 6th, 2010 at 10:16 PM ----------

Vote no lynch

[Jedah]

Also, I do not believe you are cop, lol. Stop trying to martyr. :\

[Pepsi]

TAMMEERRRRRRRRRAAGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!

---------- Post added March 6th, 2010 at 10:16 PM ----------

Vote no lynch

vote yoy

u never wanna no lynch

wtf is wrong with that?

[Zerker]

fff

---------- Post added March 6th, 2010 at 10:19 PM ----------

i was caught

[Jedah]

Yoy is playing too recklessly to be Mafia. -__-

[Pepsi]

Yoy is playing too recklessly to be Mafia. -__-

mafia = a person who contributes nothing and spews random ****

gg?

[Omega Red]

Vote Jedah

[Jedah]

Lol. Cute.

[Pepsi]

yoy is obv the top choice atm

[.Ðempt]

mafia = a person who contributes nothing and spews random ****

gg?

Not rly.

FoS KeSha

You smell like SCUM Freddy.

[Pepsi]

o snap

u obv know he is scum and are sticking up for him

Fos Dempt

I THINK IM ON TO SOMETHING!!!

[Omega Red]

yoy is obv the top choice atm

No Yoy is acting out of line true, but Jedah clearly spoke up for him. So Yoy might be pretending but Jedah is surely trying to confuse with such an early defense.

[Pepsi]

No Yoy is acting out of line true, but Jedah clearly spoke up for him. So Yoy might be pretending but Jedah is surely trying to confuse with such an early defense.

could mean both of them are possibly scum

[Omega Red]

The defenders are always the targets in judging which scum to go after,

Person A seems scummy
Person B With no supporting evidence Defends Person A

Person B is Scum

[Jedah]

Get the cop to scan me, then.

[Omega Red]

Get the cop to scan me, then.

^ this is illogical,

[Pepsi]

Get the cop to scan me, then.

^this confirms yoy as scum

why would scum ask to be scaned?

[Jedah]

My evidence is that Yoy almost always does this and turns out to be townie. I just don't want him to get lynched unnecessarily I do not think he is scum, but my opinion doesn't really matter.

[Red]

Just a reminder, you really don't need to check in. I'm keeping an eye on who is active and who's not.


[1] No Lynch - Yoy
[1] Yoy - KeSha
[1] Jedah - Rorshach'

[17] Yet to vote - Zerato Prime, Guile, Eddie Fenix, Solf J. Kimblee, Vincent, Slox, Teki Fhrost, Kurono, Tenken, Archangel, MDL, Dempt, midnightfox, Shadeas24, Lulu in Zero, Candlejack

[Omega Red]

^this confirms yoy as scum

why would scum ask to be scaned?

To waste the use of a cop ability to find out what is already known.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 12:01 AM ----------

Why would a non scum defend someone acting scummy?

[Pepsi]

he never no lynches tho

he mainly targets and locks on to people day 1 trying to get results.

i see none of this

[.Ðempt]

Lol FRED!

You're a silly goose.

Fred is Town, Dave looks town, Yoy looks borderline.

[Jedah]

Fine, let's go for Yoy. But you're probably wrong.

Vote Yoy.

[Omega Red]

Just because I dump 99/10 pitchers on your head doesnt meanI will dump the 100th pitcher on your head as well.

[.Ðempt]

EBWoP: Jedah looks scum.

[Pepsi]

Fine, let's go for Yoy. But you're probably wrong.

Vote Yoy.

so your saying you know you know im wrong?

only mafia would know who is town and who is not

[Jedah]

I'm just saying that this is Yoy's usual playstyle.

[Pepsi]

I'm just saying that this is Yoy's usual playstyle.

no yoys usual play style is

vote _____

then unvote ___

lol it was just a trap

[.Ðempt]

icwutudidthar Freddy.

Why are only like 5 people active right now?

[Omega Red]

I still think Jedah is our best bet.

[.Ðempt]

I still think Jedah is our best bet.

YEAHHHH DAVE!

Not voting yet. Iwannacmoar.

[Pepsi]

i also notice yoy hasnt said anything esle

[midnightfox]

Not a whole lot to go on yet.

Vote No Lynch

If something comes up later I will change my vote.

[.Ðempt]

HoS midnightfox

It's Day 1. Something is bound to show up. Why even vote no lynch (which is unproductive) if you're just going to change it anyways? My bet is that you only SAID you'd change it so you can use that as a security blanket of sorts, in order to seem less scummy than you really are, SCUM!

POW!!1!11!

[Tenken]

Can we stop calling people by first name? I got Dave = Roschach and Fred = Kesha, but it is still an annoyance.

MF, that is a really bad way to play. You are basically saying you don't want to contribute. Every time I see you play town, you usually stand out more and make strange plans, but idk.

I agree Jedah is acting a little scummy. But I don't think he is an idiot.

[Pepsi]

ive never really been in a game with fox so i really dont know what kind of play style to expect from him

but i would agree to the fact no lynching this early in the day is retarded

[Candlejack]

I guess majority has come in basically.
I don't like getting too far ahead of everyone, but...
Dempt, why are you freaking out about one vote?

[Izaya]

Checking in, sorry for lack of activity. I'll be more active tomorrow after our Tournament tomorrow. But I'm here so don't count me out.

[Tenken]

Checking in, sorry for lack of activity. I'll be more active tomorrow after our Tournament tomorrow. But I'm here so don't count me out.
Our?
Talking in the singular/plural is strange.

@CJ, do you mean Kesha? I don't see Dempt freaking out at anything. Kesha is just really upset at any No Lynches.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 01:05 AM ----------

Where did activity go?

[.Ðempt]

I'M NOT FREAKING OUT!! *Scratches neck repetitively*

Srsly though. I'm just pointing things out. If I thought it was a biggg scumtell, I would have placed a vote. It's still waaay too early to get a good match, cause I want to be able to compare everyone against eachother.

This is my way of getting to know the new people :3

@Tenken: Sorry. Their real names are just easier to type on my PSP :x

[Zerker]

unvote
Vote Jedah.

Sorry, but you have to go.

[MysticalDL]

Sorry for the no activity after my check-in, was busy on CBL playing Online Season mode on NCAA Football 2010

I dont really think anybody is really scummy right now. Yoy voting no lynch is kind of weird but think he is town.

[Zerker]

Kesha is also mafia, but of the opposite faction as Jedah.
Kesha is taking advantage of the obv no lynch bait I threw at him.

[Omega Red]

Common tatics for scum involve voting against one another hoping first to not get elminated and next to try and sew enough confusion to where there isnt enough votes to lynch either.

Yoy and Jedah are mafia, but we should focus on Jedah.

[MysticalDL]

thats cool and if either turn up town, then we get to lynch you next day. Thanks for the Idea Rorschach

[Zerker]

I actually think that Jedah and Roarshack ARE mafia, but I want to see how Roarshack plays ;x

[Omega Red]

Or it could mean I was just wrong. lol

[Tenken]

Or it could mean I was just wrong. lol
Why the opinion change? Because Yoy said he thinks Jedah is mafia? Isn't that what you said?

Or is it because Yoy called you out?

[Omega Red]

Another common ply is to accuse another player in order to provoke them into voting for you in retaliation.

[MysticalDL]

I think its cause Rorschach doesn't want to risk getting found out as scum to early in game, so he is trying to change his stance.

[Omega Red]

No tenken I was replying to MDL

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 02:23 AM ----------

I havent changed my stance tardo.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 02:24 AM ----------

Read the whole thread my stance is still Jedah. =/

[Zerker]

unvote
vote Rorschach

[MysticalDL]

No tenken I was replying to MDL

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 02:23 AM ----------

I havent changed my stance tardo.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 02:24 AM ----------

Read the whole thread my stance is still Jedah. =/

Ah, so instead of defending yourself, you prefer to resort to name calling

I think I've struck a nerve.

[Zerker]

if people are so sure that Rorschach is mafia, why isn't anyone voting for him?
FoS MysticalDL

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 02:11 AM ----------


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 4 (4 members and 0 guests) Yoy (http://yugiohforums.com/member.php?u=13437), .:Zero (http://yugiohforums.com/member.php?u=12231), * Rorschach' (http://yugiohforums.com/member.php?u=2910), Tenken (http://yugiohforums.com/member.php?u=12124)

this people were here at this point and time.

[Omega Red]

Thats because no one actually believes I am mafia =)

[Zerker]

if you are not mafia, the mafia will prob bandwagon with me,
if you are mafia, some people will bandwagon with me

[Omega Red]

Thats not how it works sir.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 03:25 AM ----------

I see a bandwagon with no wheels filled with scum like you and Jedah.

[Jonny]

Vote Rorschach

I see him accusing two people of being scum and whenever anyone mentions him being scum he comes back with some witty retaliation about play styles, therefore leading me to believe that he is actually the scum.

[Omega Red]

Vote Rorschach

I see him accusing two people of being scum and whenever anyone mentions him being scum he comes back with some witty retaliation about play styles, therefore leading me to believe that he is actually the scum.

So because i pointed out that they defended one another then voted for one another i am scum?

[Jonny]

So because i pointed out that they defended one another then voted for one another i am scum?

No, because you change the subject and do not defend yourself.
Even scum defends itself occasionally.

[Omega Red]

Why defend myself once my role is discovered by vote if it comes to that things become alot clearer.

[Tenken]

I would defend Rorschach, but then he would call me scum for defending him.

Just kidding of course.

Because town should not just die while doing nothing. That is just retarded. If you are town, you should be trying to live, same with all sides. But saying you won't defend yourself, is not a good thing and won't make people go away.

Who is archangel? Is it CJ (recently changed?) or some new guy?

[Jonny]

Well I'm certainly not new to the site, but this is my first mafia.

[Tenken]

Yea, I was just asking about to mafia here/everywhere.

[MysticalDL]

vote Rorschach'

he just seems like he is trying to deflect attention away from him and avoiding defending himself.

[Omega Red]

Unvote
Vote Rorschach

If you want me gone that badly

Everyone vote for me.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 04:55 AM ----------

If you are town smart money is on voting me off now.

[Tenken]

Unvote
Vote Rorschach

If you want me gone that badly

Everyone vote for me.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 04:55 AM ----------

If you are town smart money is on voting me off now.
That is WIFOM, which is a bad tactic also.

You keep stating all of these styles of play, and yet you aren't making any good plays. Actually, all of the styles you have stated are "scum styles." And you are now using WIFOM, another scum tactic. Seems that is all you know. And yet you are still using it.

I don't think you are mafia. I think you are just bad =\. I'm not saying I'm great, but at least I don't just give up and die. You have a few votes on you, if you are townie you should be trying to convince us you are. Not just saying you are town.

Btw if you are softclaiming cop, I have to lol.

[Omega Red]

Actually sir defending yourself is

A. bad
B. points you out to mafia for night kill
C. Not important if you are instead focusing on exposing mafia
d. I am a town but i refuse to play the "omg believe me" game
e. No one else that has voted for me has anything to prove i am Scum accept a lame he's changing the subject line which is very fishy because I didnt change the original subject they did by pointing fingers at me making them scummy.

SO EVERYONE LOOK AT THE FACTS do not just bandwagon with scummy acting characters. This is my defensive statement I am not mafia.

Unvote
Vote Jedah

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 06:12 AM ----------

That is the best case I can/will make because I'm not going to hang myself out in the wind for Mafia to pick me off by being strenuously vocal in defense of myself. If town wants me dead I will be dead by god But then my corpse will reanimate just to say I told you so,

[Eddie Fenix]

Ok. Ive caught up. Top 3 suspected are

Jedah
Rorschach
Yoy (as usual. Mafia fears this guy)

Until I see more (for scum tell slips) and an ability update, Im going to be switzerland.

[midnightfox]

Nice try Tenken. You know that I am used to ETC mafia. Almost every Day 1 ends in a no lynch. Don't say it is bad playstyle. FoS Tenken. I think I agree with quite a few people and I think rorshach's claim to reanimate is BS.

Unvote No Lynch
Vote Rorschach

[Eddie Fenix]

Whats up with everyone aiming for Ror? Ive yet to find any scummy reads from him. Hes trying to defend, but it seems that no one is listening. Im willing to listen to all the evidence until we trial someone by fire and mis-lynch.

[Red]

Morning vote count


[4] Rorshach' - Yoy, Archangel, MDL, midnightfox

[2] Yoy - KeSha, Jedah
[1] Jedah - Rorshach'

[13] Yet to vote - Zerato Prime, Guile, Eddie Fenix, Solf J. Kimblee, Vincent, Slox, Teki Fhrost, Kurono, Tenken, Dempt, Shadeas24, Lulu in Zero, Candlejack



Our?
Talking in the singular/plural is strange.

By "our" he means himself and other people, one of the other people being myself. I'll check in on the thread later tonight.

[Jedah]

You just contradicted yourself, Eddie. Anyway,

Unvote.

Vote Rorschach.

Now I am gone for the day.

[Eddie Fenix]

Im still Switzerland Jedah. Im waiting for more posts to read to assist in my hunt. At this point, Im still trying to read people. But im curious, other then Rorschach, who do see being scum?

Cause someone who votes themselves could be suiciding to prove a point and assist us in finding the scum within his voters/attackers, OR he could be doing it to TRY and gain our trust. -2 going into day 2 is bad for us. Lets all polish our huntin guns and pop a scum today.

[midnightfox]

Actually sir defending yourself is

A. bad
B. points you out to mafia for night kill
C. Not important if you are instead focusing on exposing mafia
d. I am a town but i refuse to play the "omg believe me" game
e. No one else that has voted for me has anything to prove i am Scum accept a lame he's changing the subject line which is very fishy because I didnt change the original subject they did by pointing fingers at me making them scummy.

SO EVERYONE LOOK AT THE FACTS do not just bandwagon with scummy acting characters. This is my defensive statement I am not mafia.

Unvote
Vote Jedah

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 06:12 AM ----------

That is the best case I can/will make because I'm not going to hang myself out in the wind for Mafia to pick me off by being strenuously vocal in defense of myself. If town wants me dead I will be dead by god But then my corpse will reanimate just to say I told you so,


Secondary part does not seem like a town power. Even if he is not mafia, he is not town.

[Eddie Fenix]

Time to bust out my Russia!

FoS Midnightfox

How do you know if wehave any neutrals in the game?

[midnightfox]

Eddie you are pointing that finger way too much. Every mafia game I have ever played in has always had at least one neutral. Protecting Rorschach much. FoS Eddie Fenix.

[Eddie Fenix]

Nope. And who says this game has a neutral? I think rorschach was being sarcastic with his last comment. Kind of like how if I died, my OMGUS post would be a Neilson HA-HA to the town for lynching me. Why so jumpy in Fox? I was just asking a simple question with a FOS attached.

My sig is the one who does the finger too much...

[Candlejack]

Eddie you are pointing that finger way too much. Every mafia game I have ever played in has always had at least one neutral. Protecting Rorschach much. FoS Eddie Fenix.

Yeaaahhh. Thats ETC, bro. There have been quite a couple games with no nuetrals.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:15 AM ----------


Ok. Ive caught up. Top 3 suspected are

Jedah
Rorschach
Yoy (as usual. Mafia fears this guy)


Whats up with everyone aiming for Ror? Ive yet to find any scummy reads from him. Hes trying to defend, but it seems that no one is listening. Im willing to listen to all the evidence until we trial someone by fire and mis-lynch.

Uhhhhhh.
(Also I did read your post in response to Jedah, I just don't see any relevance to the whole contradiction thing.)

[Eddie Fenix]

My first post was Top 3 everyone suspected (meaning that everyone was suspecting them. Kinda giving my own review on the matter.) I knew I was going to catch flak for not specifying or EBWOP on that. But, right now, I still need to read because everyone who is inactive atm for tournaments today should have some say in this matter.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 12:35 PM ----------

BBL.

[Candlejack]

My first post was Top 3 everyone suspected (meaning that everyone was suspecting them. Kinda giving my own review on the matter.) I knew I was going to catch flak for not specifying or EBWOP on that. But, right now, I still need to read because everyone who is inactive atm for tournaments today should have some say in this matter.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 12:35 PM ----------

BBL.

:|
Riiiiiight.



Also @mod

WhatTheTenken 11:27 am
(11:27:58 AM): </SPAN> not much. could you tell VK I need to sub out.
YF Francesco 11:28 am
(11:28:06 AM): </SPAN> Yeah, of course.

(11:28:12 AM): </SPAN> What happened?
WhatTheTenken 11:28 am
(11:28:28 AM): </SPAN> thanks. computer crashed
YF Francesco 11:28 am
(11:28:36 AM): </SPAN> Ah.
(11:28:38 AM): </SPAN> Alright.
(11:28:40 AM): </SPAN> I'll let him know.
WhatTheTenken 11:29 am
(11:29:03 AM): </SPAN> k

[ZeratoPrime]

Checking in, sorry for the absence. I'm reading the thread now.

[Eureka -]

Checking in.

o.o I take one day off from mafia..

[ZeratoPrime]

Time for some intellectual graffiti. (That's my new way to call it a wall 'o text)



HAI!

SCANNING FOR SCUM *Bleep bleep bleep*

Looked in a mirror, huh? :3


I see a correlation between people not taking this seriously and the people afraid to call said people out. hmmm

I love you Yoy.


As long as the other faction don't night-kill me, I should be okay

---------- Post added March 6th, 2010 at 09:55 PM ----------

other faction as the TWO other factions, obv typo was obv...

---------- Post added March 6th, 2010 at 09:55 PM ----------

the TWO mafia factions, jedahdammittttt

First slip up is Yoy's? Interesting...


Yoy is playing too recklessly to be Mafia. -__-

Or is he? Dum dum duuuuuuum!


Vote Jedah

y so srs?


No Yoy is acting out of line true, but Jedah clearly spoke up for him. So Yoy might be pretending but Jedah is surely trying to confuse with such an early defense.


could mean both of them are possibly scum

Or neither.


The defenders are always the targets in judging which scum to go after,

Person A seems scummy
Person B With no supporting evidence Defends Person A

Person B is Scum

Where's your support of voting Jedah, then?


no yoys usual play style is

vote _____

then unvote ___

lol it was just a trap

True that, homie.


Checking in, sorry for lack of activity. I'll be more active tomorrow after our Tournament tomorrow. But I'm here so don't count me out.

WHAT?!?!?! THAT NEVER HAPPENS WITH JOO!!!

j/k, I love my Crimson Alchemist :3


I think its cause Rorschach doesn't want to risk getting found out as scum to early in game, so he is trying to change his stance.

^ This. Where did your confidence in Yoy and Jedah go?


Vote Rorschach

I see him accusing two people of being scum and whenever anyone mentions him being scum he comes back with some witty retaliation about play styles, therefore leading me to believe that he is actually the scum.

Don't edit your posts my friend, and welcome to the game.


Unvote
Vote Rorschach

If you want me gone that badly

Everyone vote for me.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 04:55 AM ----------

If you are town smart money is on voting me off now.

OKAY THEN! GOOD IDEA!

Vote Rorschach


Ok. Ive caught up. Top 3 suspected are

Jedah
Rorschach
Yoy (as usual. Mafia fears this guy)

Until I see more (for scum tell slips) and an ability update, Im going to be switzerland.

Wait a second. Your suspect is Yoy because Mafia fears him?

Mafia fears him, making him Town. You suspect him, making you scum.

dididoitright?


Time to bust out my Russia!

FoS Midnightfox

How do you know if wehave any neutrals in the game?

How do you know if we don't? FoS Eddie


Yeaaahhh. Thats ETC, bro. There have been quite a couple games with no nuetrals.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:15 AM ----------





Uhhhhhh.
(Also I did read your post in response to Jedah, I just don't see any relevance to the whole contradiction thing.)

Way to go, CJ. I missed that. HoS Eddie


Thoughts as of nao:

-Ror is scum, Eddie is close.
-Yoy is suspicious, but when isn't he?
-I think Jedah is Town. No evidence, just my gut.

In case VK missed it:

Vote Rorschach

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 12:06 PM ----------


Checking in.

o.o I take one day off from mafia..

DAY OFF! YOU'RE SCUM OBVIOU...wait?

[YamiJoey]

Archangel is the most Scummy person I've seen, but nothing major. Just a check in at the moment, really. I'll post more later today, or tomorrow.

YJ

[Kurono.]

Guys, stop voting Ror. I am not sticking up for him, because he may very well me mafia, however, I am 100% sure that Jedah is mafia.

Vote Jedah

[ZeratoPrime]

Guys, stop voting Ror. I am not sticking up for him, because he may very well me mafia, however, I am 100% sure that Jedah is mafia.

Vote Jedah

Reasoning por favor?

[Shadeas24]

finally checking in :p

Sorry it took so long, I was at Kurono's and couldn't post and then I had to work this morning, but I'm here

[Kurono.]

Reasoning por favor?

Why am I voting him?

Because I'm 100% sure he's mafia. That's all that matters.

[Shadeas24]

I was reading through the thread (and playing G.O.W at the same time) and I have noticed that he seems a bit scummy and I'm one not to take a risk so...

Vote Jedah

[ZeratoPrime]

Why am I voting him?

Because I'm 100% sure he's mafia. That's all that matters.

If you'd be willing to put your head on the line for it, then I'll trust you.

[Kurono.]

I'm willing to put both heads on the line for it.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 04:31 PM ----------


I was reading through the thread (and playing G.O.W at the same time) and I have noticed that he seems a bit scummy and I'm one not to take a risk so...

Vote Jedah

Liar :p You're just going after Jedah because I am >_<
But it's cool. He's scum, so idc.

[ZeratoPrime]

I'm willing to put both heads on the line for it.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 04:31 PM ----------



Liar :p You're just going after Jedah because I am >_<
But it's cool. He's scum, so idc.

Fair enough. If Jedah is Town, you die tomorrow.

Unvote
Vote Jedah

[Shadeas24]

a bit brutal but would seem fair to me ZP

[ZeratoPrime]

a bit brutal but would seem fair to me ZP

How so?

[Eddie Fenix]

Fair enough. If Jedah is Town, you die tomorrow.

Unvote
Vote Jedah


Sac'ing a Jedah to try nail Shaedas is bad idea!!! Guys, have some trust in me. It seems to me that we have scared townies being lead by mafia, running around trying to pick 1 person to vote for. At this point, we need to stop running around and THINK instead of voting randomly.

[ZeratoPrime]

Sac'ing a Jedah to try nail Shaedas is bad idea!!! Guys, have some trust in me. It seems to me that we have scared townies being lead by mafia, running around trying to pick 1 person to vote for. At this point, we need to stop running around and THINK instead of voting randomly.

I said Kurono dies if Jedah is Town, not Shadeas.

[Eddie Fenix]

We go -2 and not find scum in Kurono/Krittz, Zerato, what happens then?! We take your head for retribution? Seriously, lets hit day 1 right and bust scum. Not vote off for BS.

[Zerker]

unvote
vote Jedah


it was a trap lol. Fox is mafia though.

Ror, Fox, Jedah are mafia imo

[Candlejack]

If you'd be willing to put your head on the line for it, then I'll trust you.

Lol.
Why are you so persistant on trying to lynch two people you don't even know about?

[Eddie Fenix]

FoS Yoy

Your playing way to reckless and its not like you to not play better then this yoy. Why are you voting for him?

[Zerker]

Kurono said he was 100% sure. If kurono is town and lying about this, he should die tomorrow, no buts. If Jedah turns out to be mafia then it's a +3 for the town. ;3

[Eddie Fenix]

Kurono is trying to mis-lead you Yoy. Trust me.

FoS Kurono

How do you know if Jedah is mafia?

[Zerker]

OKAY. IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO DEFEND JEDAH SIMPLY SAY "I VOUCH FOR JEDAH" NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
WHY CAN"T PEOPLE BE STRAIGHFORWARD???

[Red]

Evening Vote Count


[5] Jedah - Rorshach', Kurono, Shadeas24, ZeratoPrime, Yoy

[4] Rorshach' - Archangel, MDL, midnightfox, Jedah
[1] Yoy - KeSha

[10] Yet to vote - Guile, Eddie Fenix, Solf J. Kimblee, Vincent, Slox, Teki Fhrost, Tenken, Dempt, Lulu in Zero, Candlejack

[Eddie Fenix]

OKAY. IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO DEFEND JEDAH SIMPLY SAY "I VOUCH FOR JEDAH" NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
WHY CAN"T PEOPLE BE STRAIGHFORWARD???

Because, if I were straight forward, Id be dead night 1.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 07:20 PM ----------

ALSO! Kurono is going on his "100% sure Jedah is scum bit," I think hes lying and scum. And with Shaedas agreeing with him full heartedly pretty quickly, I think hes scum too.

[Zerker]

ARE YOU VOUCHING FOR JEDAH OR NOT, EDDIE.?

[Eddie Fenix]

Im vouching.

[Zerker]

unvote
vote Kurono

[Shadeas24]

O.o you think I'm a threat...


lolololololololololololololololol

ahhhh.. I needed that thank you

[Eddie Fenix]

Why would you agree with Kurono so quickly instead of going on the hunt?

[MysticalDL]

I'm uncertain on Kurono being mafia. So I am gonna keep my vote on Rorschach until evidence can be presented that says Kurono is mafia.

[Eddie Fenix]

I can say hes mafia cause hes pushing for a townies lynch.

[Izaya]

I think it would be nice to hear from kurono now before we lynch him, otherwise Eddie your no better than kurono. Your trying to lead a lynch on him hecause he is trying to lead a lynch on someone also , well now your doing the same and now look as scummy in my eyes. Hell It wouldn't surprise me if Jedah was your scum buddy and your trying to protect him or he could be your mason which then we would be wrong for calling you mafia. Theres many options here, but I feel safer not voting anyone yet.

[Eddie Fenix]

Im glad your thinking SJK and not swift voting like a lot. But, If I reveal my hand right now for all to see, im dead.

[Zerker]

HoS MyticalDL
because he is not sure on Kurono lollolll

Kurono says jedah is mafia.(100% sure)
Eddie says that Jedah is NOT mafia (vouched)

kurono is mafia. I figured if I went after Jedah, some scum would come out and finish my attack.

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just saiying

[Jonny]

Kurono did just suddenly jump in and say "I'm 100% sure Jedah is mafia"
I'm guessing that since the seed of suspicion had already been sown, Kurono came in Parading the Jedah-Hate to direct attention away from himself.
Or perhaps Jedah is mafia, and Kurono is simply doing this with the anticipation that the attention will be directed at him, thereby leaving Jedah to go unscathed.
We can't know until more information is revealed.

[MysticalDL]

I can say hes mafia cause hes pushing for a townies lynch.

I did read that you confirmed Jedah, but I dunno. I find Rorschach more scummy. Kurono could just be misguided town IMO.

[midnightfox]

Maybe we should hold out the votes until some real evidence comes up. Did everyone forget there are 2 scum factions. 1 faction ratting out the other is not completely out of the question. Neither is the possibilty of a mafia cop. Especially in a game with 2 mafia factions. Just my take from being in enough mafia games and hosting them. For now I am going to go to no lynch until I get a solid slip-up and not a bunch of people trying to end the day quickly.

Unvote Rorschach
Vote No Lynch

[Eddie Fenix]

Kurono did just suddenly jump in and say "I'm 100% sure Jedah is mafia"
I'm guessing that since the seed of suspicion had already been sown, Kurono came in Parading the Jedah-Hate to direct attention away from himself.
Or perhaps Jedah is mafia, and Kurono is simply doing this with the anticipation that the attention will be directed at him, thereby leaving Jedah to go unscathed.
We can't know until more information is revealed.

Question, Why would a scum WANT attention upon himself and allow one of his pals to go by un-scathed? Especially when the town already is suspicious of said "scum."

If anything, the person being suspected of scum is the person they want to get the town to bus and try to keep the suspicion off his back. That way, they can go into the night and eliminate a threating townie to their faction.

Balls in your court Arch. Do with it as you please.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 09:21 PM ----------


Maybe we should hold out the votes until some real evidence comes up. Did everyone forget there are 2 scum factions. 1 faction ratting out the other is not completely out of the question. Neither is the possibilty of a mafia cop. Especially in a game with 2 mafia factions. Just my take from being in enough mafia games and hosting them. For now I am going to go to no lynch until I get a solid slip-up and not a bunch of people trying to end the day quickly.

Unvote Rorschach
Vote No Lynch

Question #2. Why would the mafia need a cop?

They know who the town is and who their scum pals are. IDK if they know the other side, but its not out of the question that they may.

[Jonny]

Question, Why would a scum WANT attention upon himself and allow one of his pals to go by un-scathed? Especially when the town already is suspicious of said "scum."

If anything, the person being suspected of scum is the person they want to get the town to bus and try to keep the suspicion off his back. That way, they can go into the night and eliminate a threating townie to their faction.

Balls in your court Arch. Do with it as you please.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 09:21 PM ----------



Question #2. Why would the mafia need a cop?

They know who the town is and who their scum pals are. IDK if they know the other side, but its not out of the question that they may.

The point behind it would be so that Jedah would retaliate, leaving us wondering which of them is actually scum.

[Pepsi]

unvote

vote jedah

[Zerker]

15 players will usually mean 4 scum.
We have 2 mafia factions
2 groups of 2.
They do not know who each other is obv.
Kurono IS mafia imo, he probably did believe that Jedah was mafia and he wanted to take a blind shot. He claimed 100% assurance so that if Jedah DID turned out to be mafia, the town would trust kurono.

imo kurono is our best bet.

[midnightfox]

Question, Why would a scum WANT attention upon himself and allow one of his pals to go by un-scathed? Especially when the town already is suspicious of said "scum."

If anything, the person being suspected of scum is the person they want to get the town to bus and try to keep the suspicion off his back. That way, they can go into the night and eliminate a threating townie to their faction.

Balls in your court Arch. Do with it as you please.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 09:21 PM ----------



Question #2. Why would the mafia need a cop?

They know who the town is and who their scum pals are. IDK if they know the other side, but its not out of the question that they may.


You seem to know a little too much Eddie. HoS Eddie Fenix. I never said it was a definite. Don't put words in my mouth. I said the possibility was there. I think you are digging yourself into a hole sir. You are pretty close to getting my vote as you have been acting scummy and seem to know more than anyone else. However, I would like to see more scum slip before I vote for you.

[Eddie Fenix]

The point behind it would be so that Jedah would retaliate, leaving us wondering which of them is actually scum.

Its also a ploy the Mafia like to use to get the town to vote for said townie. That way, all those who voted for him, get thrown under a microscope and they try to worm their way into safety by hiding behind other townies and come out unscathed.

[Zerker]

unvote

vote jedah
lol
What do you think of the whole jedah vs Rorschach thing?

what do you think of Jedah vs Kurono?

What do you think of Fox going no lynch?

[Jonny]

Hm. Eddie does seem to know a lot about this.
He also knows a lot of the Mafia's tactics. That could just be from past experiences, and probably is, but at the same time, he's using some of these tactics himself.

And Yoy is changing his vote every page or so, saying something different, and generally trying to cause disruption.

[Eddie Fenix]

You seem to know a little too much Eddie. HoS Eddie Fenix. I never said it was a definite. Don't put words in my mouth. I said the possibility was there. I think you are digging yourself into a hole sir. You are pretty close to getting my vote as you have been acting scummy and seem to know more than anyone else. However, I would like to see more scum slip before I vote for you.

I asked you WHY would the mafia need a cop. I never put words in your mouth. And just because I can see outside of the box, that makes me "know too much." Please, do show me where i have put words in your mouth. I would be glad to retaliate acquordingly. Because at this point, I think you are trying to dig out of your own hole.

[Kurono.]

Lol. If Eddie is vouching for Jedah, then he's also scum.

Jedah is mafia, town. Please, I'm begging you to trust me on this. I can garentee you that if we vote for Jedah, we will have a mafia killed today.

[midnightfox]

lol
What do you think of the whole jedah vs Rorschach thing?

what do you think of Jedah vs Kurono?

What do you think of Fox going no lynch?

Why are you changing your vote so often? Why try to end the day so fast?This is our time to wait for scum to slip up. There is no reason to end day 1 with no real slip ups. There are small slips but, it could just be playstyle. I want some definitive evidence because I want to hit scum day 1 and not be reckless.

[Eddie Fenix]

Hm. Eddie does seem to know a lot about this.
He also knows a lot of the Mafia's tactics. That could just be from past experiences, and probably is, but at the same time, he's using some of these tactics himself.

And Yoy is changing his vote every page or so, saying something different, and generally trying to cause disruption.

Arch, Ive got the mind set of both townie and mafia. The best way to find scum, is to think like scum. So Arch, who do YOU think is scum?

[midnightfox]

I asked you WHY would the mafia need a cop. I never put words in your mouth. And just because I can see outside of the box, that makes me "know too much." Please, do show me where i have put words in your mouth. I would be glad to retaliate acquordingly. Because at this point, I think you are trying to dig out of your own hole.


I sir, am not digging myself out of a hole. That would be you. Quit changing the subject and throwing suspicions elsewhere. You know too much to not be scum Eddie. However, like I said, I want to see more scum slip first. Ending day 1 with no real evidence and blindly lynching is going to give the mafia +2 and I am not willing to be the one to help with it. Are you?

[Pepsi]

lol
What do you think of the whole jedah vs Rorschach thing?

tbh i find Roars to be townie he hasnt done much to throw my suspicion at him at least

what do you think of Jedah vs Kurono?

jedah i think is probably our best bet atm since he was willingto jump on the bandwagon i set on you lol it is also quite possible that kurono is an opposing mafia faction but we wouldnt know that.

What do you think of Fox going no lynch?

i answered this question earlier. im not used to foxes playstyle so im not sure what to thing of him atm, but going no lynch day 1 could be normal for him. also considering there are 2 mafia factions its possible they could NK each other durring the night.

answers in red

[Eddie Fenix]

Lol. If Eddie is vouching for Jedah, then he's also scum.

Jedah is mafia, town. Please, I'm begging you to trust me on this. I can garentee you that if we vote for Jedah, we will have a mafia killed today.

Question: HOW do you know that Jedah is mafia and What faction is he on?

[Candlejack]

Im glad your thinking SJK and not swift voting like a lot. But, If I reveal my hand right now for all to see, im dead.

Cause you're mafia, right?
When your reveal that hand, everyone will just straight up lynch you.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 08:52 PM ----------


Question: HOW do you know that Jedah is mafia and What faction is he on?

Question: HOW do you know that Jedah isn't mafia?

[midnightfox]

So let's hear from the people being accused. Do you have a defense Rorschach or Jedah?

[Kurono.]

Okay.

We kill Jedah, he's a mafia. Obviously Yoy is just going to say that I was only saying that to get trust, but whatever.

Cop, scan me if you truly think I am a threat. I am not at all worried about being scanned, in fact, I want to be scanned, that way maybe you guys will trust me when I say that Jedah is, without a doubt, 100% scum.

[Eddie Fenix]

I sir, am not digging myself out of a hole. That would be you. Quit changing the subject and throwing suspicions elsewhere. You know too much to not be scum Eddie. However, like I said, I want to see more scum slip first. Ending day 1 with no real evidence and blindly lynching is going to give the mafia +2 and I am not willing to be the one to help with it. Are you?

How am I digging myself into or out of a hole Midnightfox? Im thinking logically and seeing everything with 100% clear thought. Knowing too much isnt a scum tactic. Worrying about me knowing too much is a scum worrying about me finding out who him and his scum pals are.

[midnightfox]

So we have Drizzt. and Kurono soft claiming cop? Smells like the possibilities of either liar(s) or a possible mafia cop.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 09:59 PM ----------

Feel free to have me scanned. I am just not willing to give the mafia +2 going into day 2. Kill me if you wish. That will only put the scum radar where it belongs, on you. I sir, am playing with my head and holding out the day to wait for scum to slip up. If you play a game right, you can nail all of the scum on Day 1. Ending the day early is a scum tactic.

[Eddie Fenix]

Cause you're mafia, right?
When your reveal that hand, everyone will just straight up lynch you.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 08:52 PM ----------



Question: HOW do you know that Jedah isn't mafia?[/QUOTE]

Why would I expose that info? If I did, I would die because the mafia would FEAR ME.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:01 PM ----------

[quote=midnightfox;639072]So we have Drizzt. and Kurono soft claiming cop? Smells like the possibilities of either liar(s) or a possible mafia cop.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 09:59 PM ----------

Feel free to have me scanned. I am just not willing to give the mafia +2 going into day 2. Kill me if you wish. That will only put the scum radar where it belongs, on you. I sir, am playing with my head and holding out the day to wait for scum to slip up. If you play a game right, you can nail all of the scum on Day 1. Ending the day early is a scum tactic.

Who says we are ending the day early? We are still hunting at this point. Quit panicking and help.

[Kurono.]

I'm not cop in any way. I just know that Jedah is mafia. Feel free to lynch me if you really don't trust me, but I urge you not to. I'd like for us to win this game.

Jedah is the biggest and surest lynch for today. And when he is seen as mafia, I think you all will see that Eddie is scummy.

Midnightfox, don't bother arguing with Eddie. I'm pretty sure that he's mafia, so just don't waste your time.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:03 PM ----------



Cause you're mafia, right?
When your reveal that hand, everyone will just straight up lynch you.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 08:52 PM ----------



Question: HOW do you know that Jedah isn't mafia?

Why would I expose that info? If I did, I would die because the mafia would FEAR ME.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:01 PM ----------



Who says we are ending the day early? We are still hunting at this point. Quit panicking and help.

You're not going to die. You don't know that Jedah isn't mafia. It's simply not possible. Jedah is mafia.

The more you keep saying he isn't mafia, the deeper in you're going to be once he is found as scum.

[Eddie Fenix]

Okay.

We kill Jedah, he's a mafia. Obviously Yoy is just going to say that I was only saying that to get trust, but whatever.

Cop, scan me if you truly think I am a threat. I am not at all worried about being scanned, in fact, I want to be scanned, that way maybe you guys will trust me when I say that Jedah is, without a doubt, 100% scum.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS IS TRUE?!!? THERE IS NOTHING YOU HAVE SAID TO SUPPORT IT!!! Town, Kill kurono today. Hes obviously slipping and trying to deflect attention from himself.

[Kurono.]

Explain how I am slipping, Eddie.

I've already said that I am not a cop. I've just stated that I know Jedah is mafia, which I do.

Please, show me the slip.

[Jonny]

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS IS TRUE?!!? THERE IS NOTHING YOU HAVE SAID TO SUPPORT IT!!! Town, Kill kurono today. Hes obviously slipping and trying to deflect attention from himself.

And you're obviously deflecting attention from yourself, Eddie.

[Eddie Fenix]

I'm not cop in any way. I just know that Jedah is mafia. Feel free to lynch me if you really don't trust me, but I urge you not to. I'd like for us to win this game.

Jedah is the biggest and surest lynch for today. And when he is seen as mafia, I think you all will see that Eddie is scummy.

Midnightfox, don't bother arguing with Eddie. I'm pretty sure that he's mafia, so just don't waste your time.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:03 PM ----------

[quote=Eddie Fenix;639079]

You're not going to die. You don't know that Jedah isn't mafia. It's simply not possible. Jedah is mafia.

The more you keep saying he isn't mafia, the deeper in you're going to be once he is found as scum.

What if I do know? How do you know hes not my mason? How do you know for 100% fact that hes scum? Facts Kurono, I want them, NOW!!

[Izaya]

If Jedah doesn't defend him self by tomorrow, I'm gonna say we lynch Jedah and if it turns out hes townie then Kurono is next. Its our only option at the moment.

Kurono does seem like he is soft claiming cop, but he could be doing it on purpose to get us towns to go -2 by day 2, only way to settle this for sure is to hear from Jedah and pick which of the two we believe is the liar of the two.

For now I'm gonna keep my vote as undecided until I see Jedahs defense then Kuronos reaction to Jedahs defense. By tomorrow I'll hopefully know which one I feel safe with voting off.


@Kesha: Hey who is that chick spinning her finger around in your sig????? It looks like its a band.

[Eddie Fenix]

And you're obviously deflecting attention from yourself, Eddie.

Why would I need to deflect attention from myself? I know Im town, I know Jedah is town. No need for me to deflect any attention from myself.

[Izaya]

wow I hate when I type and post and while I was typing 5 people post during that time.

-_-

[Kurono.]

Eddie, I'm going to use your logic against you.

You say you know he's town? Okay. Where are your facts? Let me see them. Bring them to the table now, while you have the chance.

[Jonny]

Why would I need to deflect attention from myself? I know Im town, I know Jedah is town. No need for me to deflect any attention from myself.

I know absolutely and without a doubt that you are lying.

[Eddie Fenix]

Eddie, I'm going to use your logic against you.

You say you know he's town? Okay. Where are your facts? Let me see them. Bring them to the table now, while you have the chance.

Answer my question first: How do you know that hes for 100% fact, Mafia? Only then will I answer your question.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:15 PM ----------


I know absolutely and without a doubt that you are lying.

Show me where Im lying then.

[Kurono.]

How did I know you would try to deflect from you?

[Eddie Fenix]

How did I know you wouldnt answer my question? Your slipping Kurono and your scum is showing. Tell me, is shaedas your mafia mason?

[Jonny]

Answer my question first: How do you know that hes for 100% fact, Mafia? Only then will I answer your question.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:15 PM ----------



Show me where Im lying then.

Showing you where you're lying isn't going to do any good with fixing the problem, because by now I think we're all pretty convinced that you're scum.

[Eddie Fenix]

Showing you where you're lying isn't going to do any good with fixing the problem, because by now I think we're all pretty convinced that you're scum.

Showing scum where he is lying is a pro-town move. You sir, just hit the bingo book for being #2 on my list as scum from making a rookie mistake.

[Kurono.]

Bro. I'm not slipping. I have nothing to slip, as I am a townie. I have said nothing that would appear as slipping. Unlike you, I've done nothing truly scummy.

You want to know my proof on Jedah being mafia? Because I am psychic.

Now shoot. What's your proof that he's townie? Going to claim mason? Cop?

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:22 PM ----------

And again, Eddie, if I am slipping, by all means, show me how. Show me where I have slipped. Quote every post by me in this thread and tell me where I have slipped.

[Eddie Fenix]

Psychic? hahahahahahaah! Thats a joke claim and a half. Also, if I TRULY revealed how I know Jedah is town, your buddies would just kill me tonight. Guys, lets just get this over with.

Vote Kurono

[Jonny]

Why would I need to deflect attention from myself? I know Im town, I know Jedah is town. No need for me to deflect any attention from myself.

This is where I know you are lying Eddie.
I don't think you're town to begin with, and I know that you can't know if Jedah is town or not.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:25 PM ----------

unvote
vote Eddie Fenix

[Kurono.]

Um. Eddie. I told you how I know.

Uphold your end and tell us how you "know" he's town, otherwise once I die and am proven town, town will go after you, then Jedah.

[Eddie Fenix]

This is where I know you are lying Eddie.
I don't think you're town to begin with, and I know that you can't know if Jedah is town or not.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:25 PM ----------

unvote
vote Eddie Fenix

Siding with scum is a scum tactic to save his scum buddy. Plus, you cant even show me where Ive "lied." This proves that you know NOTHING when it comes to knowing if im town or mafia.

And trust me friend, I can know ;) But if I told how, Id be killed.

[Zerker]

Eddies claims are MUCH more reasonable than what Kurono has said.

jedah can easily be his mason. the real question is HOW does kurono KNOW (100%) that Jedah is mafia?

lol
Kurono is straight up lying lol

[Kurono.]

Eddies claims are MUCH more reasonable than what Kurono has said.

jedah can easily be his mason. the real question is HOW does kurono KNOW (100%) that Jedah is mafia?

lol
Kurono is straight up lying lol

Eddie hasn't claimed, Yoy. How about for once in your life, you take a game seriously instead of bull****ting your way through it.

Pay attention.

[Zerker]

HEY GUYS, LET'S TEST VK'S ABILITIES IN CREATING A PERFECT MAFIA GAME AND MASS CLAIM!

[Jonny]

Siding with scum is a scum tactic to save his scum buddy. Plus, you cant even show me where Ive "lied." This proves that you know NOTHING when it comes to knowing if im town or mafia.

And trust me friend, I can know ;) But if I told how, Id be killed.

What scum am I siding with? I actually don't really think I'm siding with anyone on this. I'm taking my own approach to saying that you're scum, because you're acting scummy, and because I know you're lying.

[Eddie Fenix]

Um. Eddie. I told you how I know.

Uphold your end and tell us how you "know" he's town, otherwise once I die and am proven town, town will go after you, then Jedah.

Your not town though, and claiming psychic is a complete bullocks answer. Tell me, does your psychic power allow you to see if said suspect ability too?

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:33 PM ----------


What scum am I siding with? I actually don't really think I'm siding with anyone on this. I'm taking my own approach to saying that you're scum, because you're acting scummy, and because I know you're lying.

You claim to "know" that Im "lying." YET, you have proven it with NOTHING! Until proven otherwise, your opinion, just like Kuronos psychic ability, is bullocks.

[Zerker]

HAVE WE GOTTTEN ANY UPDATES FROM VK?
NO.
Only vote counts.

OKAY SO KURONO IS LYING.
yes.

AHHHH

[Jonny]

Your not town though, and claiming psychic is a complete bullocks answer. Tell me, does your psychic power allow you to see if said suspect ability too?

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:33 PM ----------



You claim to "know" that Im "lying." YET, you have proven it with NOTHING! Until proven otherwise, your opinion, just like Kuronos psychic ability, is bullocks.

Lol.
You're being silly, Eddie. You demand proof from everyone, yet provide none after you say "I know Jedah is town."

Well, Eddie, I want some proof from you, damn it. Show me how you know Jedah is town. Until then, you are scum trying to protect your scum buddies by placing all the blame on a real townie like Kurono.

And as far as me knowing that you're lying... "If I told how, I'd get killed"

[Kurono.]

Lol Yoy.

Anyways, Eddie. My claim is as good as you're going to get. I could be lying, I could not be lying. That's how this game works. Either way, I know he is mafia for a fact, which is why I find it complete bull**** that you are siding with him.

So instead of considering this pointless argument, how about you be a real man and come forth with your so called "proof."

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:41 PM ----------

lol.

*instead of continuing this pointless argument

[Eddie Fenix]

You want my proof so your scum buddies can lynch me tonight? Doc can only protect me once and since each side has a NK, guess who gets targeted next night but cant be protected? Im as good as dead once I tell you my info.... I dont think the town would want me to be dead this early in the game. Im a VERY valuable asset to this team. If I die today because of you or archangel, YOU and HIM are as good as dead, and Jedah is as good as safe.

Are you sure you want me to reveal my info? Cause its not something you want, nor do the town want at this point.

[Jonny]

You want my proof so your scum buddies can lynch me tonight? Doc can only protect me once and since each side has a NK, guess who gets targeted next night but cant be protected? Im as good as dead once I tell you my info.... I dont think the town would want me to be dead this early in the game. Im a VERY valuable asset to this team. If I die today because of you or archangel, YOU and HIM are as good as dead, and Jedah is as good as safe.

Are you sure you want me to reveal my info? Cause its not something you want, nor do the town want at this point.

If you reveal your info the only person that will die is you. I'm a town, there's no reason for the town to vote to lynch me, and I doubt I'll get night-killed for revealing you. All I'm trying to do is sort through your scummy posts.

[Kurono.]

LOL. Both mafia factions having a night kill each night? That would be broken and town would lose way too quickly. VK knows this. Most likely, they alternate between nights. One group has odds while the other has even.

And yes, I want you to reveal your so called info. Stop bull****ting us and talking through your ass and actually help town instead of accusing it.

[Omega Red]

FoS Eddie

I'm fairly certain if you are as useful as you say you are you wouldnt come even this close to being exposed for nk.

My vote still remains Jedah though too many people are coming to his defense so I bet he's got something none of his scummates want to lose.

[Eddie Fenix]

Alright, but when I die today because town killing him, its your asses. Im his mason. If you lynch him today, I die too from hiding along side him. Happy?

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:52 PM ----------


FoS Eddie

I'm fairly certain if you are as useful as you say you are you wouldnt come even this close to being exposed for nk.

My vote still remains Jedah though too many people are coming to his defense so I bet he's got something none of his scummates want to lose.

Hey Ror, Im tellin you, this expose that I just did, is gonna do me in. Please change your vote.

[Kurono.]

Once I talk to VK, I may or may not have a comment to that.

Either way, you just damned yourself. Jedah is mafia, and you just claimed mason with him.

[Eddie Fenix]

If he was Mafia, wouldnt I be killed already?

[Zerker]

LOL. Both mafia factions having a night kill each night? That would be broken and town would lose way too quickly. VK knows this. Most likely, they alternate between nights. One group has odds while the other has even.

And yes, I want you to reveal your so called info. Stop bull****ting us and talking through your ass and actually help town instead of accusing it.



Eddie is Jedah's mason, just as I assumed. The thing is that I am eddies mason too. ;x
Just as I assumed.

Kurono is scum.
Now everyone is like "AHHHH"
Kurono said he had proof and was 100% sure that jedah was mafia. Jedah and Eddie are my mason so Kurono's claim was bs.

Town, trust me, Kurono is mafia.
He does this.
He claims stuff that makes him look like a cop when he's mafia. Too bad he took that bait on my atttack towards my own mason lol


TOWN GO AFTER KURONO

[Eddie Fenix]

There you go again Krizz. You have YET to show that you know if hes mafia or not. Psychic my dick. I can see that you are getting rid of a threat to your side and trying to kill me in a 1 2 punch.

[Kurono.]

No, you wouldn't be killed, Eddie. There hasn't been any nights.

[Zerker]

Once I talk to VK, I may or may not have a comment to that.

Either way, you just damned yourself. Jedah is mafia, and you just claimed mason with him.
Again, this is bs.
Talking to the host is a way to delay a response so that scum doesn't dig a deeper hole.

nice try.

[Kurono.]

There you go again Krizz. You have YET to show that you know if hes mafia or not. Psychic my dick. I can see that you are getting rid of a threat to your side and trying to kill me in a 1 2 punch.

Lol.

Fine, town. Kill me. Put yourselves at a -1, then a -2 after the night kill.

Go for it. When you see I'm townie, I urge you to ignore Eddie and kill Jedah.

[Zerker]

There you go again Krizz. You have YET to show that you know if hes mafia or not. Psychic my dick. I can see that you are getting rid of a threat to your side and trying to kill me in a 1 2 punch.
Don't worry eddie, we got each other's backs lol

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:59 PM ----------


Lol.

Fine, town. Kill me. Put yourselves at a -1, then a -2 after the night kill.

Go for it. When you see I'm townie, I urge you to ignore Eddie and kill Jedah.
A townie would say
" fine kill me, but I think I just found out 2 mafias!
Kill me, once you see I am town go after Eddie and Jedah"

[Kurono.]

Wow, Eddie. Did you read the first post?


"The Russian Crime syndicate performs their night-kills only on odd numbered nights.
The Pegorinos perform night-kills on every even day. When either of the two is completely wiped out, the other takes over their schedule."

[Zerker]

FoS Eddie

I'm fairly certain if you are as useful as you say you are you wouldnt come even this close to being exposed for nk.

My vote still remains Jedah though too many people are coming to his defense so I bet he's got something none of his scummates want to lose.
Name these people

[Eddie Fenix]

Yoy, question. What are your thoughts on Shaedas? He was awfully quick in agreeing with Kurono about Jedah.

[Zerker]

Wow, Eddie. Did you read the first post?


"The Russian Crime syndicate performs their night-kills only on odd numbered nights.
The Pegorinos perform night-kills on every even day. When either of the two is completely wiped out, the other takes over their schedule."
That's why I found this post scummy.


LOL. Both mafia factions having a night kill each night? That would be broken and town would lose way too quickly. VK knows this. Most likely, they alternate between nights. One group has odds while the other has even.

And yes, I want you to reveal your so called info. Stop bull****ting us and talking through your ass and actually help town instead of accusing it.


most likely?
no.

it's a fact.

[Eddie Fenix]

Wow, Eddie. Did you read the first post?


"The Russian Crime syndicate performs their night-kills only on odd numbered nights.
The Pegorinos perform night-kills on every even day. When either of the two is completely wiped out, the other takes over their schedule."

When I posted what I posted, It was meant that each side BOLDED had a NK. Doc can only protect a guy once ya know!

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:03 PM ----------

EBWoP: each side had a nk on different nights**

[Zerker]

Yoy, question. What are your thoughts on Shaedas? He was awfully quick in agreeing with Kurono about Jedah.
he could easily be of the opposite mafia faction. But is def NOT in the same faction as Kurono.
Keep in mind that mafia are working in teams of 2, they will try to stay distant and not back each other up.

[Kurono.]

That's why I found this post scummy.



most likely?
no.

it's a fact.

Lol. I hadn't seen it at first :p Oh well. Kill a townie, Yoy. Lose your credibility.


When I posted what I posted, It was meant that each side BOLDED had a NK. Doc can only protect a guy once ya know!

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:03 PM ----------

EBWoP: each side had a nk on different nights**

Lol. Doc can protect a person more than once, bro.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:06 PM ----------


he could easily be of the opposite mafia faction. But is def NOT in the same faction as Kurono.
Keep in mind that mafia are working in teams of 2, they will try to stay distant and not back each other up.

What makes you think the mafia factions are only teams of 2?

[Eddie Fenix]

True true.

@doc, protect either Yoy or Myself tonight. Whoever you feel is going to be the better asset to our faction.

[Jonny]

he could easily be of the opposite mafia faction. But is def NOT in the same faction as Kurono.
Keep in mind that mafia are working in teams of 2, they will try to stay distant and not back each other up.

idgi. why do you assume mafias are in teams of two?
just because of previous ways games were set up?

or do you know because when you got your role there was a little mafia teammate for you to talk to?

[Eddie Fenix]

Lol. I hadn't seen it at first :p Oh well. Kill a townie, Yoy. Lose your credibility.



Lol. Doc can protect a person more than once, bro.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:06 PM ----------



What makes you think the mafia factions are only teams of 2?

Back to back? I think not. Thats why I said ONCE. Because once mafia TRY to slay me and they are unsucessful, next night, BAM, im dead.

[Zerker]

I know that mafia are in teams of two because I am a townie using his head and not scum trying to act all clueless.
You guys remind me of whatah when he's mafia tbh.

On the doc thing, a doc can protect more than once but not the same person twice in a row. That's the norm at least.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:09 PM ----------


idgi. why do you assume mafias are in teams of two?
just because of previous ways games were set up?

or do you know because when you got your role there was a little mafia teammate for you to talk to?
scum scum scum scummmmmmmm.....scum scum

[Kurono.]

I know that mafia are in teams of two because I am a townie using his head and not scum trying to act all clueless.
You guys remind me of whatah when he's mafia tbh.

On the doc thing, a doc can protect more than once but not the same person twice in a row. That's the norm at least.

And how are you using your head, Yoy?


15 players will usually mean 4 scum.
We have 2 mafia factions
2 groups of 2.
They do not know who each other is obv.
Kurono IS mafia imo, he probably did believe that Jedah was mafia and he wanted to take a blind shot. He claimed 100% assurance so that if Jedah DID turned out to be mafia, the town would trust kurono.

imo kurono is our best bet.

In this post, you said that 15 players would mean 4 scum. I agree, but we have 20 players, not 15.

[Jonny]

I know that mafia are in teams of two because I am a townie using his head and not scum trying to act all clueless.
You guys remind me of whatah when he's mafia tbh.

On the doc thing, a doc can protect more than once but not the same person twice in a row. That's the norm at least.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:09 PM ----------


scum scum scum scummmmmmmm.....scum scum

And what have I done to warrant this attack?

[Eddie Fenix]

idgi. why do you assume mafias are in teams of two?
just because of previous ways games were set up?

or do you know because when you got your role there was a little mafia teammate for you to talk to?

Town is usually 2-3x larger then the mafia. Mathmatically speaking, there are 20 players, 4 being mafia and 2 being neutral (IF we have neutrals mind you) could be a way that the host has choosen to do. Think about it with mathmatics Arch.

[Kurono.]

Town is usually 2-3x larger then the mafia. Mathmatically speaking, there are 20 players, 4 being mafia and 2 being neutral (IF we have neutrals mind you) could be a way that the host has choosen to do. Think about it with mathmatics Arch.

Neutrals aren't garenteed. Mafia/Town are.

[Eddie Fenix]

^ Note my ( )

[Vincent]

Question: HOW do you know that Jedah is mafia and What faction is he on?

Faction is irrelevant, alliance is all that matters.



I'm not cop in any way. I just know that Jedah is mafia. Feel free to lynch me if you really don't trust me, but I urge you not to. I'd like for us to win this game.

Jedah is the biggest and surest lynch for today. And when he is seen as mafia, I think you all will see that Eddie is scummy.

Midnightfox, don't bother arguing with Eddie. I'm pretty sure that he's mafia, so just don't waste your time.

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:03 PM ----------



What if I do know? How do you know hes not my mason? How do you know for 100% fact that hes scum? Facts Kurono, I want them, NOW!!

I could tell you were soft-claiming Mason here, interesting.



I know absolutely and without a doubt that you are lying.

Softclaiming Arch?


Alright, but when I die today because town killing him, its your asses. Im his mason. If you lynch him today, I die too from hiding along side him. Happy?

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 10:52 PM ----------



Hey Ror, Im tellin you, this expose that I just did, is gonna do me in. Please change your vote.

Has it ever ocurred to you that Jedah might be your Mafia mason while you are townie? It is a possibility, and I'm not sure why it hasn't ocurred to anyone else.


Yoy, question. What are your thoughts on Shaedas? He was awfully quick in agreeing with Kurono about Jedah.

He and Kurono are buddies, and Shadeas is inexperienced. When I first started out, I was acquainted with Yoy and thought what he was doing was correct, so I followed his footsteps. Exactly what Shadeas is doing. Doesn't seem odd to me.


That's why I found this post scummy.



most likely?
no.

it's a fact.

Also, Kurono was just speculating the nk timings like Eddie was. Neither of them read the OP, so what you said doesn't quite make sense.

Why are you talking to yourself...? O.o

100% assured that Jedah is mafia? If Kurono was misguided townie, he would just FoS, but he legit went 100%. Before I vote however, I'm curious, Kurono, did you get this information from your own actions or someone else's actions?

Once you answer I'll vote. I'm leaning towards Jedah atm.

[Jonny]

Town is usually 2-3x larger then the mafia. Mathmatically speaking, there are 20 players, 4 being mafia and 2 being neutral (IF we have neutrals mind you) could be a way that the host has choosen to do. Think about it with mathmatics Arch.

Mathematics isn't my strong suit. And this is my first mafia game, so I'm not entirely sure of the "norm" so it wouldn't really make sense to me to think of it that way.

[Eddie Fenix]

Going to bed. I need sleep. Ill review after I awaken.

[Zerker]

And how are you using your head, Yoy?



In this post, you said that 15 players would mean 4 scum. I agree, but we have 20 players, not 15.
ahhhhh

FFFFFFFFF math fial


hmm kay, VK said he cut 15 lol That got me confused.
The way the night kills are set up I'd say that mafia operate in groups of 3 then.

FoS Archangel

he just repeats everything kurono says.

[Eddie Fenix]

Oh and @ Vincent. Hes "psychic". Thats how he knows for 100% fact of Jedah.

[Vincent]

Town is usually 2-3x larger then the mafia. Mathmatically speaking, there are 20 players, 4 being mafia and 2 being neutral (IF we have neutrals mind you) could be a way that the host has choosen to do. Think about it with mathmatics Arch.

2 neutrals would be overkill in a 20 player game. 1 is more likely.

I think the number of mafia exceeds 4. If there are 4 mafia in a 15 player game, then 4 mafia in a 20 player game is bad. I'd think 5-6. Probably 6 for even-ness.

[Kurono.]

Faction is irrelevant, alliance is all that matters.



I could tell you were soft-claiming Mason here, interesting.




Softclaiming Arch?



Has it ever ocurred to you that Jedah might be your Mafia mason while you are townie? It is a possibility, and I'm not sure why it hasn't ocurred to anyone else.



He and Kurono are buddies, and Shadeas is inexperienced. When I first started out, I was acquainted with Yoy and thought what he was doing was correct, so I followed his footsteps. Exactly what Shadeas is doing. Doesn't seem odd to me.



Also, Kurono was just speculating the nk timings like Eddie was. Neither of them read the OP, so what you said doesn't quite make sense.

Why are you talking to yourself...? O.o

100% assured that Jedah is mafia? If Kurono was misguided townie, he would just FoS, but he legit went 100%. Before I vote however, I'm curious, Kurono, did you get this information from your own actions or someone else's actions?

Once you answer I'll vote. I'm leaning towards Jedah atm.

I guess you'd say both.

Again, I am willing to put my head on the line.

If Jedah is town, I don't want to play anymore. If he's mafia, then I'll keep playing.

[Vincent]

Oh and @ Vincent. Hes "psychic". Thats how he knows for 100% fact of Jedah.

You realize that was probably a joke to try to get you off his back? I read Kurono's post and interpreted it with a grain of salt. Don't think he was serious.

[Jonny]

ahhhhh

FFFFFFFFF math fial


hmm kay, VK said he cut 15 lol That got me confused.
The way the night kills are set up I'd say that mafia operate in groups of 3 then.

FoS Archangel

he just repeats everything kurono says.

The fact that Kurono and I are agreed on things is no reason to suspect either of us. Townies are teams, too, not just the mafia. Kurono is making sense, and I suspect Eddie of being mafia. Do whatever you want to me, though.

[Kurono.]

You realize that was probably a joke to try to get you off his back? I read Kurono's post and interpreted it with a grain of salt. Don't think he was serious.

^

Plus I wanted to see if he'd actually claim something. But he didn't.

He either lied, and claimed mason with someone who he doesn't know is town or mafia, or just claimed with a mafia person. Both are very stupid moves.

[Vincent]

This 1-for-1 tactic is bad and should be discarded. No mafia early in the game would risk leading such a mislynch, and if Jedah turns out to be town, then I would want to see how you gained your information from an outside source.

Vote Jedah

[Zerker]

I am willing to vote Archangel over kurono tbh

Let's assume that Jedah IS town. You guys see the bandwagon?

unvote
vote Archangel

[Kurono.]

I assure you he is mafia.

[Vincent]

^

Plus I wanted to see if he'd actually claim something. But he didn't.

He either lied, and claimed mason with someone who he doesn't know is town or mafia, or just claimed with a mafia person. Both are very stupid moves.

He hinted at masonry beforehand. I feel he is Jedah's mason, just that Jedah is scum and Eddie is town.

[Eddie Fenix]

You realize that was probably a joke to try to get you off his back? I read Kurono's post and interpreted it with a grain of salt. Don't think he was serious.

Joke or no joke Vincent. The fact still remains he claims, for 100% "fact", that Jedah is mafia and yet provides no proof as to where he got his facts.

[Zerker]

Kurono hasn't used any outside source.
Game started on day1 and we haven't got any updates.

GOD I SWEAR SOME PEOPLE ARE HARD HEADED!!!
TAMMMYRAAGEEE!!!!1!

[Kurono.]

He hinted at masonry beforehand. I feel he is Jedah's mason, just that Jedah is scum and Eddie is town.

We can figure that out once Jedah is dead. If his role is revealed, we'll know via Jedah's ability.

[Zerker]

If I was kurono and I wasn't lying, I would be like "fine don't kill jedah" and if kurono get's night killed by the other faction we would know if he was lying or not.

[Eddie Fenix]

Who says VK will reveal his ability?

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:23 PM ----------

**** it. I need sleep. I cant sit up all night arguing my facts. This continues into tommorrow. Count on that.

[Zerker]

Srsly guys, think about it.
If we kill jedah and he is town/mason, eddie dies at night. Kurono is lynched next day.

let the mafia start the chain not us

[Vincent]

Joke or no joke Vincent. The fact still remains he claims, for 100% "fact", that Jedah is mafia and yet provides no proof as to where he got his facts.

If he really did get information, it would be idiotic to come out with it. That would be like cop coming out D1. Very stupid. Do you have any proof that Jedah is townie and not just your mason?


Kurono hasn't used any outside source.
Game started on day1 and we haven't got any updates.

GOD I SWEAR SOME PEOPLE ARE HARD HEADED!!!
TAMMMYRAAGEEE!!!!1!

Outside source can mean another player.

[Kurono.]

If I was kurono and I wasn't lying, I would be like "fine don't kill jedah" and if kurono get's night killed by the other faction we would know if he was lying or not.

Naw. We have the chance to kill a mafia on Day 1. I'm going to push for it, Yoy. You know me better than that.


Who says VK will reveal his ability?

That's why I said if, bro.

[Zerker]

We can let that 3-way take a break and lynch Archangel instead.
The guy freaked out when I called him scum lol

[Vincent]

Who says VK will reveal his ability?

---------- Post added March 7th, 2010 at 11:23 PM ----------

**** it. I need sleep. I cant sit up all night arguing my facts. This continues into tommorrow. Count on that.

You don't have facts. You're relying on a claim that doesn't prove anything besides linking you to him.