Remove which Yugioh Deck?

[MetaGame]

Remove which Yugioh Deck? - Poll results ( clicky) for full article.


These are the poll results of another website, i was wondering if it would be any different here, so please VOTE!!! :D

(The results were a surprise to most that took part and a 3 week long run made it a strong voice to be heard. More than 300 people voted and they've shown just how hated certain decks have become.)

Probably the most interest poll yet, we take a deep look into our metagame and ask our community which deck they'd remove if they could remove one.

Not surprisingly we find Konami's themes at the heart of the problem; something we'll analyze in a little bit.
Let's look at the results after a long 3 week poll (June 25-August 15, 2009):

Blackwings
50 (15%)

Lightsworn
95 (29%)

Synchro Cat
42 (12%)

Gladiator Beasts
73 (22%)

Zombies
7 (2%)

Plants
4 (1%)

Skill Drain
30 (9%)

Other
25 (7%)

Votes so far: 326
Poll closed

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Listed in Order

• 1) Lightsworn - 29%
• 2) Gladiator Beasts - 22%
• 3) Blackwing - 15%
• 4) Synchro Cat - 12%
• 5) Skill Drain - 9%
• 6) Other - 7%
• 7) Zombies -2%
• 8) Plants - 1%

History of the Poll

If you watched the poll closely you'll have noticed that Gladiator beasts were in the lead for a long while in the beginning but Lightsworn caught up and took the lead.

Regardless, there was no clear cut winner but we could say with high certainty that most duelists want either Lightsworn or Gladiator beasts gone.

Together they amounted for 51% of the vote, a sizable enough percentage to make assumptions off of.

My personal vote,in the interests of openness, was Gladiator Beasts.

Too much love for Konami?

If you look back at some of our older Konami based articles you'll find a striking similarity in a lot of the comments. UniMetagame was being criticized for not criticizing Konami enough and possibly giving it too much credit.

I personally believe the contrary and feel we gave credit where credit was due, especially for the turbo pack, gold series, and Raging Battle.

As of now though we've criticized Konami on one point consistantly and that is their themes.
They've asked us consistently in polls how we feel about them and consistently UniMetagame has urged that these themes come to an end.

So to those who want to hear some criticism of Konami, this is the article for you.

Top 3 - Not where Konami wants to be

If you look at the top 3 most hated decks Konami takes Gold, Silver, and Bronze.
Even Blackwings, a relatively new addition, that you would feel duelists might still love or still be attracted by is being shunned by the UniMetagame community.

So why does this phenomenon occur? Could Konami have made the top 3 simply by ch..........

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[+ S l o x]

I chose Gladiator Beasts and removed your Advertising link. It would be best to put it into your siggy where you are allowed to advertise.

[MetaGame]

alright sounds good. sorry about that, is it okay if i just say to read the article at the main page? cuz i dont want to copy/paste something that isnt mine. Or should i just say click on my signature for more info? thanks

[Gamer9133]

I chose Cat Synchro but flaming won't do any good.

[diegodavid94]

i picked LS cuz ther overused

[OmegaH]

I chose other because...well there is no reason to remove a certain decktype, no matter how irritating, oeverpowered or abusive it seems

[H o l l a n d]

I voted for LS. It's the only deck that runs on luck D:

[SwordLord]

LS is pretty cheap, but for some reason i also hate synchro cat and black wings even more.

[Riddle]

The problem isn't the decks, its the players. They're so happy to have an excuse to do, what is basically, netdeck (and win).

Synchro Cat, Zombies, and Skill Drain are (with a slight exception to Synchro Cat) themes that could mean anything. A noob could play with a Zombie deck and be completely different from a vet. But you say lightsworn, gladiator beast, or blackwing, and everyone knows what you have. Because packs have become extended structure decks.

- Prohibition
+ A card that prohibits an archtype.

[+ Chocobo!]

I instantly thought cat synchro, but without Dark Strike Fighter that deck would still be good but not overpowered.

out of all of them though I think Id have to choose LS. They are, well quite luck based at times. Seem to have answers to everything.

[Whatah]

the only thing i would like removed is "all older sets" to create a different rotated format.

so other

[masterbreti]

Originally Posted by Whatah

the only thing i would like removed is "all older sets" to create a different rotated format.

so other

am i the only person in ygo forums that disagrees with this. doing what s staed above would ruin the game for m and many who i play with because mostly we use older cards. it would destroy the game and make ygo a mtg wannabe game, and that was the reason i , and many quit plaiyng magic, caus eof the rotated format.

its just my opinion


and i choose blackwings. its so sad that everybody is using them, BE UNIQUE people. auctlly i think lightsworn is good for the game. justfor price reasons. it makes it less of a child's game (which its not) because no child has 800-1000 dollars to spend.

[Whatah]

Originally Posted by masterbreti

am i the only person in ygo forums that disagrees with this. doing what s staed above would ruin the game for m and many who i play with because mostly we use older cards. it would destroy the game and make ygo a mtg wannabe game, and that was the reason i , and many quit plaiyng magic, caus eof the rotated format.

its just my opinion


and i choose blackwings. its so sad that everybody is using them, BE UNIQUE people. auctlly i think lightsworn is good for the game. justfor price reasons. it makes it less of a child's game (which its not) because no child has 800-1000 dollars to spend.

nope, i want there to be 2 competitive formats, advanced and rotated. then we go back to as many sjc torunies as we had before konami took over (about one a month) then the big torunies (and small locals) would alternate between the two formats.

you ban all the sets more then 2 years old and what do you lose?
most of the monarchs other then caius and raisa
exoida pieces
some old themes like gravekeepers
and every generic staple known to mankind (mst, mf, mr)

this opens up more design space for more themed support to replace the generic staples. konami can release a "new" skill drain and a "new" oppression so that rotated format can still make a themed stun deck and then this would mkae those archtypes even stroker in advanced format where both the original skill drain and the theme specific skill drain would be legal

formats in this game last 6 months. having 2 competitive formats would be great.

there are lots of people who dont like this idea. limiting the card pool is ususally met my a kneejerk reaction by many who have not truly thought it out. when advanced format was first created there were a ton of people who said it would be utter fail. every time a banned list comes out there are some who complain "omg i cant beleive konami banned DMoC, that is my favorite card, the game is ruined imo"

[The Paradoxical Entity]

i think the meta is fine

its a rising and falling of decks, dont worry about any of them

but i wish straight up burn decks would die...

[Ω Hebi]

I hate LS. They always sack whenever I see them -_-;

I don't mind Blackwings, mainly because if you can survive their first rush to attack, you can kind of win since they burn out of cards in hand so quickly.

Synchro Cat is pretty fun for a top tier deck, and without DSF most people would probably think it's just good and not overpowered.

Gladiators kind of have the same problem as Blackwings imo. Thye take much more skill to use than any of the other decks since they have no way of drawing into cards. You have to be smart in when you summon your Besti or whatnot because if it gets BTH'd you lose Gyzarus for the rest of the game.

[Fatamorgana]

I voted BW but could have also vote LS. I've been enemy of this all rushing. I would like to play more control oriented games rather than "who can win in first two or three turns" so BW and LS are my nemeses.

Syncro cat wouldn't be that bad if they would be stripped of DSF and I think DSF really should go.

[Timekeeper]

I chose other. In a metagame when 4 of the top decks all top a major tournament, a balance of power has been established. I would not ban any certain deck, because at least it gives you a choice in what you want to run if you go to a tournament. If you banned a certain deck type, then you would lose people with experience running their deck. I do not mind losing to any of the top 4 when I do, I do like it when people play other decks (like plants and zombies, etc.), but more so I like giving people the option to use what they are most comfortable with in the current meta.

[k23time]

I chose other because of Jinzo decks. Has anyone ever faced a true Jinzo deck before? 1-card-otk. They'll play Future Fusion which gets 3 Jinzos on the field instantly.

[<Zero>]

There are variations of deck themes that i would like gone...but not specifically a single archtype

[+ YamiJoey]

I put "Other", because all of the listed decks are good and cool. They all have their own ways of running and own strategies to use. Blackwing is a very difficult deck to run consistantly well. You have to time your pushes correctly, if you don't you'll lose too much too soon, or you'll wait too long and never get a chance to win.

Lightsworn is more about the build than the playing, but with Charge being released, it has implimented a lot more skill. You can just Charge, pick anything and hope to win. If you're selecting Luminas and hoping that your summons are worthwhile and that you mill well, you'll lose. If you get Garoth when you've got one LS on the field and your opponent's got a few f/d, you're going no-where fast.

Cat, Glads and Plants all require very good card selection at the correct times. If you don't know what you're doing with Glads, you'll find out soon enough.

In the end, all of the listed decks are good in their own ways. We don't need less of good things, we need more of the weaker stuff. That way we'll have T8's that are totally impossible to anticipate, other than the players. Skill will prevail then.

YJ